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[Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help"
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Stephen J. Turnbull |
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[Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help" |
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Thu, 30 Sep 2004 13:02:12 +0900 |
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>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <address@hidden> writes:
Miles> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <address@hidden> writes:
>> Really? Unlike gdb, tla is not normally an interactive
>> program.
Miles> Well, it doesn't have to have be an `interactive program'
Miles> -- note that gdb's help system is basically command-line
Miles> oriented, you don't have help menus, etc. (like e.g. vms
Miles> help does). You just do `help word1 word2 ...'; for
Miles> non-leaf nodes, it shows a list of further possibilities,
Miles> for leaf nodes it shows some help text.
Miles> That sort of system would fit pretty well into tla.
I actually don't think it would for me, though YMMV. gdb is an
interactive program, it already has a command line. Why add a
command-line interpreter to tla just to get a junky help browser?
Sure, you could do it all from "tla help" plus a bunch of zsh aliases
and completion, but that's not much help to bash or xtla users. Isn't
it a better idea to have tla call out to a browser that's been
designed for the purpose, and display text formatted in a language
that is understood by a number of applications, including both
standalone help browsers and at least one of the premier programmers'
editors, already?
Also, about half the time when I invoke gdb help, I've already got
something on the screen that clues me in as to what word1 and word2
should be. I rarely have that experience with tla; if I don't already
know what I need, it's "tla help | less" to get word1, then "tla word1
-H", etc. So I really do want a browser, with single keystroke or
point and click access to links. Again, YMMV, but I think this would
be a big improvement for tla newbies and occasional users trying some
new facility.
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- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] "Newbie-ized help", (continued)
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] "Newbie-ized help", Aaron Bentley, 2004/09/26
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Mark Stosberg, 2004/09/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Miles Bader, 2004/09/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Zenaan Harkness, 2004/09/26
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Miles Bader, 2004/09/26
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/09/29
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Miles Bader, 2004/09/29
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help",
Stephen J. Turnbull <=
- [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Miles Bader, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", James Blackwell, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Stephen J. Turnbull, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", James Blackwell, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Robin Green, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Adrian Irving-Beer, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Aaron Bentley, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Zenaan Harkness, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] Re: "Newbie-ized help", Zenaan Harkness, 2004/09/30
- Re: [Gnu-arch-users] "Newbie-ized help", Zenaan Harkness, 2004/09/26