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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] updates on nonfsg page

From: Karl Goetz
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] updates on nonfsg page
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:40:45 +1030

On Sat, 16 Oct 2010 21:51:51 +0200
Sam Geeraerts <address@hidden> wrote:

> Karl Goetz wrote:
> > hi all,
> > 
> > I've just spent some time working through [1] and made quite a
> > number of edits[2]. I've tried to update entries with more
> > references, and checked for Debian bugs (as its my upstream) and
> > commented with what I find. I've filed a couple more, but don't
> > have bug numbers for them yet.

Here they are, including some i've filed in the past:;address@hidden

> Regarding style:
> - afio -> Afio was part of my "packages names -> software names" plan
> [A].

Ah, I see. sorry about reverting that then. I lowercased it to match
the rest of the entries - i don't particularly mind upper/lowercase

> - I don't care whether pipes are at the start or end of a line. My 
> "2010-09-10T07:59:01" edit made everything consistent with the
> majority of entries. It would be nice if we can agree on one style
> and make it that in one big swoop, because (re-)reflowing according
> to personal preference detracts from the actual diff.

I find pipes at line end completely bizarre and unnecessarily hard to
use. If there is agreement on changing them all to line start, i'm
happy to do the work.

> > I do have some questions though.
> > 
> > 
> > We included boinc via gNS, and a very quick search of this list
> > archive didn't show any discussion past me saying I'd add it [3].
> > would we consider [4] as an acceptable licence to allow us to
> > reinclude it?
> Probably not [B].

Thanks, i've added the reference to the wiki.

> > [5] is about command-not-found, which appears to work completely
> > differently in Debian. I've not run it (system too old), but the
> > problematic files/directories are not included in the package. Can
> > someone else provide input?
> It's database is built with update-command-not-found, which extracts
> its data from Contents-*.gz. Should be OK, I think.

Guess this is not a problem for free distributions.
Not sure what to add to the wiki page though. it may be a debian change
to free it up a bit, or it may be an upstream change in how the db is

> > [6] is about the fonts lucida, but there are no references. could
> > someone provide them please?
> > 
> > Metapackages section i skipped, something to look through for
> > another day.
> > 
> > I note teeworlds is still on the list. I gather from the thread last
> > time [7] that its considered free - shall i remove it?
> I guess it's not a problem for distros, they aggregate it with other 
> software anyway.

If there are no objects i'll remove it from the page then.

> > I skipped filing bugs on thunderbird(icedove)/xchat in debian,
> > thought i should follow up with someone first.
> > 
> > Is XV[8] actually used by distributions? The references don't
> > explain how/why its there.
> Blame RMS [C]. :)

Ah yes, I remember that.
A virtual dependency shown by an xorg package. said virtual dependency
no longer exists (in debian land) thankfully.

> [C]

Karl Goetz, (Kamping_Kaiser / VK5FOSS)
Debian contributor / gNewSense Maintainer
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