Re: [GNU-linux-libre] review PureOS ISO

[Zlatan Todoric]

On 11/09/2016 05:13 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Wed, 09 Nov 2016, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
>
> > On 11/09/2016 04:52 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> > > On Wed, 09 Nov 2016, Zlatan Todoric wrote:
> > >
> > > > > tl;dr - an 100% free distro should not include, recommend nor
> > > > >           facilitate the installation of non-free software. a bios
> > > > >           firmware is also distributed software
> > > > We do not recommend nor faciliate installation of non-free software, and if
> > > > the bios firmware is the issue then all OSes fail on any hardware post 2009
> > > > - but I thought OS is separate from hardware in this discussion, maybe I am
> > > > wrong.
> > > this is the misunderstanding then.
> > >
> > > because you are recommending the option of getting your distribution
> > > through a pre-installed medium (a laptop PC) which includes non-free
> > > software (as its bios), then its hard to "separate from hardware in
> > > this discussion". People here evaluate a sort of "user journey" to see
> > > if, as someone approaching your distribution, one would ever be
> > > proposed to use/install non-free software. That it should be so it is
> > > clearly stated in the 100% free guidelines published by the FSF.
> > That is our business model, what is the problem there?
> to have a business model is not a problem.
>
> The problem is that on the pureOS website you promote acquiring the
> distribution through a medium that also vehicles non-free software.
Nope https://puri.sm/pureos/download/ - we don't say you must buy our 
hardware, we just give you here link to download and instructions how to 
put it on USB.

> I recommend you look into libreboot.org. If you'd sell pre-installed
> laptops flashed with libre-boot, that would solve the issue.
>
> > Bashing us for taking different pathway (to yours) to spread FLOSS
> > into hands of average user will gain you nothing.
> I'm sorry you perceive me as bashing you. I don't think I'm really
> bashing you, nor I have any interest to do so. I do believe we need
> more 100% distros and also good business stories around them.
>
>
> ciao

I will stop responding to mails trying to attach our OS with our 
hardware. This is for FSF Free distro endorsement, and the other is for 
RYF hardware - stop combining the two things.