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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Freeslack website

From: Ivan Zaigralin
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] Freeslack website
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2018 09:04:11 -0700
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Thanks for pointing this out, we can definitely improve the presentation here.

A quick nitpick: we do not mention Bob's website in a positive way. We mention 
Slackware developers' and Bob's *efforts* in a positive way. To link a website 
is not the same as to endorse its entire contents.

I think we can all agree that mere url linking cannot be construed as an 
endorsement without a context to support that. In our case, the link from

is a bit iffy in that it provides no context and can be misinterpreted as an 
endorsement. For this reason, and also because of the redundancy, I just 
removed that blurb completely.

On the wiki page, though,

down below in Kudos section it says:

> This project could not have succeeded without the hard work of Slackware
> developers and the alien technology courtesy of Eric Hameleers. 

We have three links of interest on this front page: Slackware project front, 
Eric's folder with free+libre code we borrowed from, and Eric's personal blog. 
Here the context is clear: these are citations. These weblinks are just the 
means of specifying which exactly Slackware project, which Eric, and which 
free/libre upstream code we are referring to. These cannot and should not be 
construed as endorsements. To make things crystal clear we can add to the 
paragraph above an unequivocal un-endorsement of both entities (Slackware 
project and Bob personally), something along the lines of:

> While we do not endorse these upstream projects in any way,
> our project could not have succeeded without the hard work of Slackware
> developers and the alien technology courtesy of Eric Hameleers.

Please let us know your thoughts.

In response to KRT downthread, this kind of reasoning applies to any 
free/libre distribution derived from a nonfree one. It would indeed be a 
disservice to our users not to *cite* our software sources, especially since 
the upstream determines 99.9% of the technical characteristics of our 
distribution. It would also be extremely rude not to *credit* the upstream.

On Friday, March 23, 2018 09:12:54 Henry Jensen wrote:
> Hi,
> I just visited the website of freeslack and noted there is a link to
> Eric Hameleers website right on the front page. On his website he does
> prominently offer and links to several third-party packages, including
> complete proprietary software, such as Adobe Flash Player.
> Since this website is mentioned in a positive way on
> one may be tempted to install this non-free software. I suggest to
> remove this link.
> Regards,
> Henry
> Am Wed, 21 Mar 2018 13:34:11 -0700
> schrieb Ivan Zaigralin <address@hidden>:
> > A pretty good and very current summary of FreeSlack review process
> > can be found here:
> > 
> >

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