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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #1308285] add uruk gnu/linux to free list


From: bill-auger
Subject: Re: [GNU-linux-libre] [gnu.org #1308285] add uruk gnu/linux to free list
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 23:45:55 -0400

On Thu, 19 Jul 2018 05:47:03 -0700 Jason wrote:
> There may be a misunderstanding then Thérèse; the GNU Webmastering
> Guidelines had never asked for the Webmasters themselves to write to
> the list. https://www.gnu.org/server/standards/#distros

i was referring to step #2 of the new procedure steps on the "Incoming Distros" 
wiki article

1) The process begins with an application sent to <address@hidden> for an 
initial review. ...
2) Once the webmasters have completed their initial check, they will send the 
distro to the Workgroup for fully free GNU/Linux distributions mailing list for 
a full review.
3) Each distro at this point will be assigned an "application manager", ...

clearly, the confusion here is rooted in the ambiguity of: "they will send the 
distro to the Workgroup" - there is surely little confidence or noise reduction 
in the distro itself writing to the mailing list declaring: "GNU said so ..." - 
even if a reference to a GNU webmaster ticket is supplied, it is not verifiable 
AFAIK because that is not a public issue tracker - i would suggest that the GNU 
server standards and step #2 of the evanluation protocol be ammended to 
explicitly require the GNU webmaster who gave the initial approval to confirm 
that to this mailing list using a gnu.org email address - surely that is not 
too much extra to ask for the sake of rigour

and i do wish people would stop throwing the "beureacratic" around - the 
purpose of the new procedure is to ensure that all distros are given fair 
treatment in a verifiable way by eliminating any blind spots that could invite 
suspicion of favoritism or discrimination - so if the GNU webmasters are to 
play an official role in this, then their decisions should be verifiable - yes? 
- if not, then there is hardly any reason for their involvement

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