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Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Viro: "Permission denied"
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Alexander Terekhov |
Subject: |
Re: GPLv3 comedy unfolding -- Viro: "Permission denied" |
Date: |
Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:09:03 +0200 |
ROFL.
Al Viro wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2007 at 06:39:07AM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote:
> > Here's an idea that just occurred to me, after all the discussions
> > about motivations, tit-for-tat, authors' wishes and all.
> >
> > If GPLv3 were to have a clause that permitted combination/linking with
> > code under GPLv2, this wouldn't be enough for GPLv3 projects to use
> > Linux code, and it wouldn't be enough for Linux code to use GPLv3
> > projects. That's because GPLv2 would still demand all code to be
> > licensed under GPLv2, and GPLv3 wouldn't permit this.
> >
> > However, if GPLv3 had a permission to combine/link with code under
> > GPLv2, *and* Linux (and any other projects interested in mutual
> > compatibility) introduced an additional permission to combine/link
> > with code under GPLv3 (or even GPLv3+, constrained by some condition
> > if you will), then:
> >
> > - the kernel Linux could use code from GPLv3 projects
>
> .. and inherit GPLv3 additional restrictions. No.
>
> > - GPLv3 projects could use code from Linux
>
> Oh, rapture! How could one object against such a glorious outcome?
>
> > - each copyright holder would still get to enforce the terms s/he
> > chose for his/her own code
>
> .. except for that pesky "no added restrictions" part, but hey, who
> cares?
>
> > If you were to permit compatibility with GPLv3+ (rather than GPLv3),
> > would you constrain it? Would something like:
> >
> > as long as the later version grants each licensee the same
> > permissions as GPLv2, except for constraining permissions that would
> > enable one licensee to deny other licensees the exercise of the
> > permissions granted by both licenses
>
> .. because it's For The Benefit Of User Freedoms!!!
>
> No. Permission denied. And I don't know of any suckers who would buy that
> and hadn't been already hooked by FSF peddlers already.
>
> If somebody wants to dual-license their code, they can do it just fine.
> If somebody wants to dual-license *others* code, they can go and play
> with themselves until they reach RMS-level clarity of vision.
>
> -
regards,
alexander.
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