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Re: What OS is used By Richard Stallman
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mike3 |
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Re: What OS is used By Richard Stallman |
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Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:53:18 -0800 (PST) |
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On Jan 16, 1:50 pm, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote:
> mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> writes:
> > On Jan 16, 1:17 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jan 14, 6:32 pm, David Kastrup <d...@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> >> > Why is it ok to
> >> > bereave the GNU project of the credit for its work?
>
> >> Credit can be given in other places beside _names_.
> >> The idea it must be given in the name and in no other
> >> place doesn't really make much sense.
>
> > Oof, that's not quite right. The idea is that it must
> > be given in the name, no other place is an acceptable
> > _substitute_ for giving it in the name (as if it was,
> > there's nothing wrong in terms of credit with calling
> > the system "Linux".).
>
> The problem is that credit was given _nowhere_. People stopped
> cooperating with the GNU maintainers of GNU software and made
> Linux-specific forks. They talked down and derided the GNU project and
> took all the credit for the software which they forked. Attempts by the
> GNU maintainers to maintain portability were sabotaged because "GNU had
> failed, Linux thrived".
>
So what would happen then if one were to give credit to GNU in a
place different from the name, and still use "Linux" for the name?
> Focusing on the name was a strategic choice. The miracle is that it
> actually worked rather well. Not for making Stallman or the FSF
> popular. Or even making anybody like the name GNU/Linux. But while
> people are quibbling and fuming over the name, they get educated about
> the situation. And that's something they did not bother with before.
>
> Losing the GNU/Linux battle again and again looks like it has been
> winning the education war for GNU.
>
And that's the truly important thing.
> Whether or not it is the "right" place to give credit, it turns out that
> just constantly trying to get the credit there is achieving the primary
> purpose, that of educating people.
>
So then it seems the name *itself* does not matter so much as the
people being educated about GNU and GNU getting credit _somewhere_.
Is this right?
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