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Re: duplicated messages and NYLXS cross-posting

From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: duplicated messages and NYLXS cross-posting
Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2020 13:43:15 -0500
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 03:12:49PM +0000, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> On 16/02/2020 15:02, John Darrington wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 01:44:57PM +0000, Daniel Pocock wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16/02/2020 12:59, Ruben Safir wrote:
> >>> It is pretty simple.  Stop trying to remove the emotional content
> >>> of my emails in face of this broad injustice to RMS and GNU
> >>
> >> This is a legitimate and important point
> > 
> > I'm not sure to which point you are refering.
> > 
> > Highlighting injustice is certainly a legitimate use of GNU 
> > infrastructure - especially when it is being perpetrated in
> > such a sustained and systematic way.
> > 
> > On the other hand, using this list to vent emotion (even when
> > severly provoked) is not, in my opinion, an acceptable use.

But it is.  Human beings have emotion and telling someone that are
pissing them off is 100% proper communication

> Let me clarify then:
> Except for some extreme cases, emails featuring emotive language don't
> deserve to be censored
> People who use metaphors as a way to help readers understand something
> are not doing anything wrong either.  John Sullivan censored me from
> libreplanet when I used the lynching metaphor.  If anybody wants to
> discuss that particular metaphor, please don't reply here, take it up on
> the libreplanet-discuss list.

The lynching metaphor was a 100% aproprate means to communicate what the
dynamic that is being used to screw RMS, and to sacrifice him on the
alter of "holy justice" by a select few people who wrongfully believe
that anyone should be thrown to the wolves in the pursuit of there
favorite poltical cause.

The truth is, that in a just world, Stallman is reinstalled as the
President of the FSF, and the GNU ban of pirates maintainers are simply

Then the mailing list can go back to normal and GNU can go back to doing 
job it was created for, to address the serious political implications 
of unfree software on a free society.

> An example with emotion and metaphor that would be censored under some
> Codes of Conduct:
> After the corruption of voting in FSFE and the Debian Project Leader
> election in 2019, I felt really cheated, like those Aussie swimmers who
> missed out on medals at the Olympics because the Chinese were doping.

Debian is a democratically run institution created for a whole different
purpose than GNU, but that is an entirely understandble feeling.

> Regards,
> Daniel

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 - Leadership Development in Free Software - Unpublished Archive - coins! 

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, 
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

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