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Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract

From: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: Endorsing version 1.0 of the GNU Social Contract
Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2020 11:34:29 -0500
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

Not - they are adding GNU to their names, at the behest of GNU, as a
matter of fact.

They are not claiming to be leaders of the GNU project and purposely 
breaking GNU policy.

Just because an organization allows you to use their trademark for a
purpose, that doesn't give someone permition to rip it off and then
claim they are GNU leadership

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:57:47PM +0100, Alexandre François Garreau wrote:
> Le mercredi 12 février 2020, 19:50:49 CET Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) a 
> écrit :
> > On 2020-02-10 07:32, Mark Wielaard wrote:
> > > There were several pieces of feedback that were either not sent to the
> > > public list, or are still held up in moderation.
> > 
> > Maybe that contract should include a few clauses about not engaging
> > in deceptive and illegal behavior.
> I disagree in regards to illegal. RMS and then GNU and FSF (at least by 
> the past) as well supported the view according  which obeying an unjust 
> rule is unjust.  They never prominently encouraged actively a blatant law-
> breaking, as I’ve rarely seen such ambitious initiatives in free-software 
> projects, beside warez, but changing that would be a loss, and a radical 
> change we shouldn’t take
> There’s something present in several social movement, and in 
> free software and neuter/acentered internet as well that is called 
> “illegalism”.  It can be reconduced to civil disobedience. It is present 
> in anarchism.  This is a powerful tool, that’s part of «direct action” 
> (something you should be familiar with, given your behavior) that free-
> software movement should be encouraged to use against hard things such as 
> DRM, tivoization, deceptive/emprisoning hardware, surveillance, etc.
> > You should not be using the GNU logo in that website or the word "gnu"
> > in the domain name.
> Plenty of websites already do that.  See any GLUG or free-software distro 
> supportive of GNU, or even gnuplot’s website.  GNU is not really regarding 
> of brands.

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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 - Leadership Development in Free Software - Unpublished Archive - coins! 

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