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Re: [Gnumed-devel] call for action

From: Sebastian Hilbert
Subject: Re: [Gnumed-devel] call for action
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 12:42:36 +0200
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On Wednesday 13 April 2005 10:13, Ian Haywood wrote:
> Sebastian Hilbert wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > If I remember correctly there are 80 or so peolple subscribed to this
> > list. This is a call for action. If you have never attempted to install
> > GNUmed please do now.
> If you what to be a developer!
> That's no point helping people struggle with an extremely complex source
> install (which is only intended for developers) to then find they can't do
> anything with gnumed and can't help us get there. When we have a releasable
> version (RPMs/DEBs for linux, .EXE for Windows) then, sure, non-coders
> should start installing.
I strongly disagree with you here. It is no longer true that you cannot do 
anything with GNUmed. This tale has been told so long that some people will 
believe it until there will be version 0.1 which does something. GNUmed is 
nowhere complete featurewise but it is in use in the practive of my parents 
as a document archive. It is reasonably complete to work as a lab module 
replacement in my parent's practice as well. 

So please do not state GNUmed does nothing and user's can't anything to get us 
there. We are there already. It depends on what you expect from it !!! If a 
user tells me. Hey you website sucks because I could not find this or that or 
this or that does not work a pointed out in you documentation that sure as 
hell helps me to improve the documentation/website.

What do you think sucks more?  You release the magic version 0.1 and end users 
tell you they cannot use it because your website sucks or your documentation 
is wrong/misleading. Come on.
> > Jim,Tony could you please post this call for action to the exposed pages
> > savannah and ? If noone objects, of course.
See comment below.
> To be honest, I do, unless it is made clear this is only a useful excerise
> for people who want to develop gnumed or make packages.
Yes and no. I am doing that for a reason. I know it is very complex but until 
someone tells me what the complexity is I won't know. Maybe you do. The point 
is I want to know where is the first point people fail.  I suspect it to be 
well before the first package will be downloaded. Maybe I am ignorant but I 
think about what I write most of the time. Sometimes not but most of the 
time. So this call goes to everyone who wants to try it. If I call on 
developers only there will be noone exept the usual suspects trying it. This 
does not help me much. Because I know you know what websites to look on, 
where to get the code from etc. I value your opinion and will keep it in the 
back of my head. It might be strong enough to prevent the call to be 
published on the websites proposed but it will not render this call invalid.


Sebastian Hilbert 
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