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Re: [Gnumed-devel] GNUmed web interface - pyjamas

From: Sebastian Hilbert
Subject: Re: [Gnumed-devel] GNUmed web interface - pyjamas
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:54:53 +0200
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Am Freitag 09 Juli 2010, 23:43:07 schrieb lkcl:

Hi Luke,

Great to have you here.

> Sebastian Hilbert wrote:
> > supposedly going through a language-to-Javascript compiler
> > will fail badly in case of a bug
> this is *precisely* why we have the unit tests, of which there are about
> 3,000, and the ultimate aim is to run the entire python regression test
> suite (under pyv8 - not in a browser of course).  nothing goes in to the
> pyjs compiler without a unit test to back it up.
Good to know. I picked up that argument in the beginning of my research from 
some website. It might not hold true for pyjamas and was uttered with regards 
to GWT
> Sebastian Hilbert wrote:
> > various techniques including Json and RPC exist but there is no consensus
> > or benchmarks
> > 
> > designer applications
> > the widely used frameworks such as extJS and ZK have designer
> > applications available which would allow non-coders to produce pseudo
> > code or mock ups.
> it's very new but pyjsglade does exist.  it's a GUI editing tool, similar
> to gtk glade.
Ah. Nice to know. I was told that those tools are mostly  a starting point and 
when you want to do something more complex you are going to to it by hand 

> Sebastian Hilbert wrote:
> > So far I have found nothing that fits the bill. In case of Pyjamas I am
> > unsure
> > about its future and its set of widgets.
>  why?  i'm never going back to HTML/CSS / javascript programming - ever.
> there are enough people if i get hit by a bus, such as greg, kees and so
> on, to continue working on it.
This is the information I was looking for. Thanks.

>  there's a roadmap and everything.
>  the chances of me abandoning pyjamas for "the next best thing" are pretty
> much zero.  i will add extra runtimes (giving serious thought to making
> pyjamas run under silverlight, porting it to IronPython!) but i will _not_
> be going back to the sheer insanity of HTML, CSS and javascript browser
> incompatibility.  it's simply too awful to contemplate, once you've used
> something like pyjamas.
Meanwhile having read your other comments (thanks for that) I personally see 
pyjamas as a viable solution. Unfortunately there is noone on the team who can 
produce a proof of concept (or noone has said so at least).

I did the research to make it easier for someone else to start and to avoid 
having to do the research. Right now I am more then busy with some GNUmed 
features to implement.

If anyone else could come up with at proof of concept done in pyjamas that 
would be great.


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