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Re: [GNUnet-developers] GNUnet and chat ?

From: Marcos D. Marado Torres
Subject: Re: [GNUnet-developers] GNUnet and chat ?
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2004 21:51:30 +0100 (WEST)

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On Fri, 9 Apr 2004, Christian Grothoff wrote:

> > >> Another point is: Does the GNUnet layer allready communicate with other
> > >> nodes what kinds of data they can process. If an old Node can not do
> > >> anything with chat-data why should we send it there. At least if it does
> > >> not WANT to have the data (i.e. for bandwidth reasons).
> > >
> > > Actually, it's less about old nodes vs. new nodes or supporting
> > > chat-protocol vs. not supporting chat protocol.  The actual messages
> > > should, as much as possible, only be relayed to the members of the
> > > particular chat room (and not broadcasted as it's done by the current
> > > code).
> >
> > Yes, if i imagine some kind of announcement from time to time
> > (like "i am in channels #2 #44 #423" maybe bundled with other info)
> > then other hosts could relay traffic based on that information and
> > it might not even cost too much computing.
> > The only weak point of it would be that it causes more packet-loss
> > when nodes are leaving. Maybe a middle way between strict routing and
> > broadcasting could be used.
> If a node is leaving, you can send a 'leave' message.  Of course, that message
> can be lost and things should still work (i.e. the node is removed after some
> time because the periodic announcements stop), but that prevents the problem
> of sending traffic to nodes that just left in most cases.  That's also how
> basically the GNUnet key exchange on the lower level works (initiate,
> periodic keepalive, shutdown, timeout).

Why must gnunet chat be an "IRC-like" chat and not a talker? It's true that my
oppinion is rather questionable since I dislike IRC and like talkers, but it
seems to me that it would be much easier and even logical for GNUnet to have a
talker then to have an IRC-like chat...

Best regards,
Mind Booster Noori

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