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Re: [GNUnet-developers] New README.md and Github


From: xrs
Subject: Re: [GNUnet-developers] New README.md and Github
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2018 22:45:01 +0200

Hi everybody,

there is another way to see it: reclaiming public (digital) space and
discourse. Similar to facebook, github has gain so much popularity that
it is already constituting social systems and the public sphere. So
for example, if people from Syria or Colombia want to protest and
organise themselves they do it mostly over facebook, yes, saidly, with
all the inherent problems. Even though some of them know about
alternatives (and use them in parallel), it is society that defines the
social norms of communication. 

So, I argue that publishing on github should not be considered as
an ethical violation of Free Software norms, but rather as an act of
freedom of expression. By communicating over private mainstream media,
people get a chance to hear or see alternatives, which is in a way
subversive. Let's shape the discourse!

And what a better way is there as to put a 2-line-banner at the
beginning explaining people that the GNUnet project aims to build a new
Internet and replace proprietary platforms like the one you are just
surfing ;)

Thanks for your attention,
xrs

On Thu, 02 Aug 2018 21:08:00 +0200
<address@hidden> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> 
> I think that all interests publicly stated here aren't too far away
> from each other and form a common notion, which everyone probably can
> live with in practice:
> 
> Fundamental:
> 1. Living Free Software consequently is important.
> 2. Outreach/building a 'bridge' to others is important for community
> growth. 3. More Accessibility is good for point 2, also in form of
> more user friendly descriptions.
> 
> Consequences:
> Officially GNUnet keeps relying on self-hosting and staying away from
> GitHub. Inofficially individuals, who feel the need for GNUnet to be
> accessible over GitHub, are free to create a GitHub mirror, but are
> recommended to not just build a simple 'bridge', but design it's
> descriptions and functionality in a way, which makes it more
> attractive for visitors of the GitHub mirror, to turn to the
> self-hosted infrastructure of the GNUnet project. The GNUnet project
> keeps working at becoming more user friendly and accessible, and
> individuals feeling the need for GNUnet to go into this direction
> including the ones with interest in GNUnet presence on GitHub are
> recommended to rather put their appreciated efforts into improving
> key project-public-interfaces like the new upcoming website, the
> documentation, and the README file than creating said GitHub mirror.
> 
> Please consider:
> - If you use GitHub, you contribute to a certain amount to making
> GitHub the norm - no matter how you use GitHub
> - GitHub structurally works against Free Software: GNUnet is licensed
> GNU AGPLv3orlater, but it's not possible to make GitHub website
> template say so. It just lets you say 'GNU AGPLv3', lets the
> 'orlater' part drop. So in disfavor of the GNUnet project, everyone
> interested in GNUnet project, and the Free Software movement
> practically important license clarification is reduced, especially
> regarding code sharing capability of GNUnet code with project code of
> projects using a new AGPL versions, in case there ever will be a
> release of a new AGPL version
> - GitHub belongs to Microsoft. Practically, next to Facebook, Google,
> and Twitter, Microsoft is an arm of the NSA by the NSA's PRISM
> program.
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> Bastian Schmidt
> 
> 
> --- Urspr√ľngliche Nachricht ---
> Von: Christian Grothoff <address@hidden>
> Datum: 02.08.2018 19:07:05
> An: address@hidden
> Betreff: Re: [GNUnet-developers] New README.md and Github
> 
> > https://www.gnu.org/prep/maintain/maintain.html#Freedom-for-Web-Pages
> > is
> >
> > very clear on this: "If you use a site other than www.gnu.org,
> > please
> >
> > make sure that the site runs on free software alone."  
> 
> > Note that there is no policy against individuals creating GitHub
> > mirrors
> >
> > of our master Git repository, just as a GNU package we shall not
> > create any official mirror there.  
> 
> 
> 
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