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Re: [Groff] tmac renaming


From: Eddie Maddox
Subject: Re: [Groff] tmac renaming
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 06:58:13 -0500 (EST)

On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Bernd Warken wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 23, 2000 at 12:59:54PM -0500, Eddie Maddox wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Gaius Mulley wrote:
> > 
> > > seriously though if tmac.arkup offends, should we rename it
> > > tmac.www perhaps? Since it is alpha I suppose we could rename
> >        ^^^
> > 
> > I was using this for a new macro package I was playing with, but, I
> > decided that package was a dead end and have therefor discontinued work on
> > it. So, feel free to use the "www" name as I won't be using it after all. 
> > 
> How about "html"?  I expect many other markups to follow in the future
> (DocBook, XML,...)

Which is _precisely_ why I saw my 'www package as a dead end. Everything
was working fine, as far as I got with it. So, who was going to slave over
the hundreds of elements, values, logic idiosyncrasies for years and years
for a never ending stream of DTDs? Not me.

Good luck. For me, it's Zope and Mozilla. (Netscape 6.0Beta within a
month, they say.) Let them do the work. If their software makes me rich
some day, or at least pays off my house, I'ld be happy to send them a
check or two, too, to say thanks.

Unless I miss something here, I fail to see how Groff makes sense for new
work, given newer tools as well or better suited, and with bodies behind
them.

Never-the-less, if there is deep, lasting value in Groff for the WWW may I
suggest you check out the DTML for Zope.  It appears to do for Zope what
tmac.arkup does for Groff, in a way. Might give you some ideas. 

zope.org 

Note: I am not a real developer, so the above remarks may be biased
against me having to do any real work. And we all know that we don't get
what we don't work, or pay, for... 

I am going to be exploring using Mozilla, Zope, and related things for the
Groff Web pages. This would allow "trusted others" to submit Web content,
links, etc, to our Web pages similar to how CVS works, complete with
"versioning". Having Ted, Werner, etc. posting stuff, and reviewing
submissions by others, stuff like that. Web interfaces.

Imagine all the contributed examples and complete "solutions" our Groff
Web sites could be hosting. Supplementing the materials included in the
Groff releases. Practice and demo areas. Translation stations for
multilanguage support. Tutorial workshops.

Stay tuned.

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Eddie Maddox
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