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Re: UTP Revisited: scoping the project

From: Mike Bianchi
Subject: Re: UTP Revisited: scoping the project
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 15:14:58 -0400
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> Should we talk about newer groff macro packages like -mom?
> What about utilities and preprocessors?

I imagine this turning into a collaboration of many authors and editors,
with most concentrating on just the chapters where their expertise is greatest.


On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:55:57AM -0400, Larry Kollar wrote:
> To be honest, I can’t believe over a fourth of my life has gone by since we 
> started the
> transcription.
> Now, with sources where everyone can grab them, maybe we should talk about 
> what we
> want to do for UTP Revisited. These are just off the top of my head:
> -  Update Chapter 3 to cover Vim (including gvim)
> -  Update Chapter 4 to cover groff (and Heirloom and Neatroff, listing the 
> most significant
>    differences)*
> -  Update Chapter 5 (-ms) and Chapter 6 (-mm) with groff extensions.
> -  New chapter: Ways to work with other file formats, with the goal of 
> getting content into
>    [gt]roff. Cover conversion utilities such as pandoc and lowdown. I’ll take 
> this one at least
>    to first draft… maybe I’ll throw in a plug for Tines as a groff-friendly 
> outliner, LOL.
> -  Where DWB is mentioned, point out that some utilities (like pic) are part 
> of the standard
>    distributions now, and mention replacements for other DWB utilities. (Or 
> has DWB been
>    liberated?)
> Should we talk about newer groff macro packages like -mom? What about 
> utilities and
> preprocessors? I think preconv is a must, do we want to at least mention grap 
> or groffer?
> Do we want to cover lighter editors, such as pico, nano, or joe?
> What about “upstart" scripting languages such as Perl or Python?
> OK, that’s all I have, and I’m up way past bedtime. Does anyone else have 
> ideas about
> what should be in an updated UTP?
> — Larry
> -------
> *This implies updating the macros to work with non-groff formatters, and that 
> implication
> is deliberate on my part.

 Mike Bianchi
 Foveal Systems

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