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Re: [groff] Odd indentation in -ms using .IP after .SH 1 with .nr PSINC

From: T. Kurt Bond
Subject: Re: [groff] Odd indentation in -ms using .IP after .SH 1 with .nr PSINC 3p
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:06:10 -0500

Is there any chance of getting a fix for the following problem in the
upcoming release of groff?  Should I add it as a bug report on

Did anyone try the patch from Tadziu Hoffman in the message at ?

On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:56 AM Tadziu Hoffmann <> wrote:

> > but unless this is historical behaviour that must be
> > preserved, isn't the order wrong and `@IP' should get
> > the paragraph reset before interpreting its `$2'?
> Certainly.  I can't imagine this is intended behavior
> and should be preserved, since it runs counter to all
> expectations, and there appears to be no good technical
> reason for requiring it to be this way.  It's just a bug
> that should be fixed.  Also, I don't think GROWPS was ever
> in the original ms macros, so I expect that the number
> of historically relevant documents that make use of this
> feature would be quite limited.
> I hadn't yet had time to look at the macros in more detail,
> but I agree that since IP resets the font size anyway, it
> should do this before interpreting its arguments (so that
> the arguments refer to the size of the text that is typeset
> by IP), although at first glance it had appeared to me that
> the reset is delegated to a common macro that seems to expect
> all values to be set already.

T. Kurt Bond,,

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