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Re: [PATCH] Remove framework for external modules

From: Vladimir 'phcoder' Serbinenko
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove framework for external modules
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:41:45 +0200

On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Robert Millan<address@hidden> wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 09:20:58PM -0700, Joe Auricchio wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 14:13, Robert Millan<address@hidden> wrote:
>> >
>> > My bad...
>> >
>> > When I proposed adding a framework for building GRUB modules externally, I
>> > was expecting it would end up being used.  I had grub-extras in mind.
>> >
>> > But it became much simpler and straightforwarded to build grub-extras by
>> > overlaiing it into GRUB tree and doing a one-line change in GRUB 
>> >
>> >
>> > So I wonder if there's anyone reliing on this.  I believe there isn't, and 
>> > I
>> I'm using it.
>> I am (my employer is) writing a set of modules to make grub do
>> something it doesn't do yet. My employer prefers that I not discuss
>> details at this time.
>> I really like keeping the module code completely separate from the
>> common grub code. If the external build stuff goes away, I can work
>> around it, but it's not preferred.
>> > noticed that it's a nuissance because it installs headers in /usr/include 
>> > which
>> > may later be dragged in to a newer version of GRUB, causing breakage.
>> I don't need headers in /usr/include. In fact I am happy with an -I
>> flag pointing to the grub source dir. I vote we stop installing the
>> headers.
>> > So I admit having a bad idea and propose to undo it.  Maintaining features 
>> > is
>> > costly, we should only maintain features that are useful.
>> I understand this and I agree completely. But it doesn't seem to cost
>> us anything *right now* to keep and the 'idea' of
>> external modules. Can we leave this code alone until a real problem
>> appears? I don't think it's hurting anyone right now?
> Only the headers are problematic.
> As for the rest, I suggest you look at how grub-extras does this now, but
> if you still need this I don't mind keeping it around.
> Do you mind if we stop installing headers then?
What about installing headers in a non-standard directory? And what do
we do with multiboot.h and multiboot2.h?
>> (footnote) We are applying GPL license to these modules, but they'll
>> never end up in the grub tree. Our requirements are too weird. You
>> won't want to merge this code, believe me.
> I understand.  Good luck with it!
> --
> Robert Millan
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>  how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
>  still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."
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