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Re: Development practices?

From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
Subject: Re: Development practices?
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 15:27:39 -0400
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On September 24, 2015 3:09:20 PM EDT, Andrei Borzenkov <address@hidden> wrote:
>Отправлено с iPhone
>> 22 сент. 2015 г., в 20:28, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
><address@hidden> написал(а):
>>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 11:34:53AM -0400, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
>>> .. snip..
>>>>>>>>> From what I have gathered so far the not enough reviewers
>>>>>>>>> is tied in folks being overworked - so there simply was no
>>>>>>>>> point of posting on the mailing list as nobody had the time
>>>>>>>>> to review it or test it properly?
>>>>>>> Hi Konrad,
>>>>>>> back in 2008/2009 (when Marco Gerards gave over Maintainance to
>>>>>>> Millan) there were indeed not much people actively reviewing
>>>>>>> Active people on the mailing list was just given commit access.
>It was
>>>>>>> expected that they only commit stuff without posting which
>doesn't need
>>>>>>> a review and complies with the rules back at that time.
>>>>>>> Due to me missing a few years on the mailing list, I can't tell
>>>>>>> unfortunately how it compares to today.
>>>>>> Not much changes as far as I can tell.
>>>>> OK.
>>>>> What qualifies as needing an review? Personal preference by
>>>>> the patch author?
>>>> I suppose, common sense. When I was given commit access, it was for
>>>> "committing after review" so I still sent all patches to the list.
>Then it
>>>> happened that Vladimir dropped off list for a long time and I tried
>to pick
>>>> up obvious bug fixes from list or bug tracker to keep things going.
>>>> I would say, any non-trivial bug fix or feature change needs to be
>>>> first.
>>>> I would love to have every patch posted and reviewed bug given
>current level
>>>> of activity it is simply unrealistic.
>>> I see. From my perspective we are paid to work on the hobbies (Xen,
>Linux, etc)
>>> so the activity level is high since we have 8 hours a day to focus
>on it
>>> (minus bug activities, lunch, etc).
>>> While GRUB2 is all volunteer with whatever time can be spared?
>>> What if the companies that employ the committers allowed one day a
>>> to focus on GRUB2 review/maintaince/etc? Would that help?
>>> Or is it unrealistic to expect that from committers employer's?
>> ping?
>You realize that commiters' employers most likely do no read this list,

True, but I hoped that the commiters's would forward this to their managers.

May I assume from your email that if you had one day a week it would allow you 
to make much more progress on reviews, commits and a release?

>>>>> Thank you for answering my questions!

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