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06 Mar 2001 00:24:32 +0200
Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Crater Lake)
Neil Jerram <address@hidden> writes:
> >>>>> "moi" == Michael Livshin <address@hidden> writes:
> moi> 0) Emacs is not cooperative enough.
> moi> a different string syntax should solve that.
> Agreed. In fact, I did a little more experimentation, and found that
> Emacs fills multiline strings in Scheme mode quite nicely. The only
> slight annoyance is the indentation and quotation mark at the
> beginning, which tend to make the first line of the documentation too
actually, the main annoyance I was thinking of is the fontification.
docstrings look quite unappealing all in one (in my case green) color.
different delimiters would make it possible to do texinfo-mode-like
fontification or something similarly pretty.
> moi> 1) docstrings take up memory.
> moi> I don't believe this to be a serious problem, actually.
> No, but others may do, and I think we should take their opinion into
... and not do anything about it. ;))))
> Just to pull everything together in one place, I think that the other
> pieces of the puzzle are:
> - the Scheme-level interface that I described, namely:
> - documentation-string
> - documentation-properties (better name for `meta-info')
> - document!
this looks good, except I probably would like there to be an
<object-documentation> class, which would have the docstring and the
various properties as the slots. just feels more orderly to me, and
also helps cut down on the syntax. all you would need is a procedure
with setter called `documentation'.
> - #:documentation-filter
> plus syntax:
> - define/documented
> - lambda/documented
> and perhaps an option for people who want their `define' and
> `lambda' to automatically be `/documented'
personally I think that the CL-like "ambiguous" convention is just
> - writing the documentation filter code to handle stuff like makeinfo
> and i18n.
> Do we have an agreed approach then?
I'm really of the opinion that it's much harder to write the docs in
the first place than to later reformat them any way one pleases. ;)
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Re: Documentation, Jorgen 'forcer' Schaefer, 2001/03/01