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Re: FOSDEM 2019

From: Arne Babenhauserheide
Subject: Re: FOSDEM 2019
Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2019 00:13:53 +0100
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Mikael Djurfeldt <address@hidden> writes:

> It was a great experience and joy for me to meet some of you at FOSDEM
> 2019. Thank you all!

Thank you, too!

> Now a piece of advice.
> Everyone who works with Guile knows that it's crap and look with envy at
> projects like Chez and Racket, right?

I’ll ignore for a moment that this is a rhethoric method and answer
directly: No, I don’t think that Guile is crap. It is actually really
good, and while there are missing parts, I enjoy working in Guile more
than I enjoy working in Python. Even when I use parentheses :-)

The talk by Christopher Webber basically described the importance of
shiny — all the bits other people already polished. A similar argument
cuts for using Python, and even Java.

This does not make it invalid: Chris is right that shiny is important;
but it is not all-important, especially not in the long run. And
different from many other projects, Guile takes the long run seriously.

And seeing my scripts finish within 60ms is impressive. It’s not yet
perl-level startup-time, but it already beats Python (by a narrow margin).

> That is all good, unless it hurts the sense of meaning and joy in your
> work.

Thank you for these words!

> I think it is pretty strong and impressive, and I wouldn't like to live
> without it. It's especially important to look at Guile as a good breeding
> ground for new amazing work.
> That said, we should steal and collaborate all we can!


Best wishes,
Unpolitisch sein
heißt politisch sein
ohne es zu merken

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