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Re: Web development
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MJ Ray |
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Re: Web development |
Date: |
Wed, 14 Nov 2001 14:15:36 +0000 |
Sergey:
> I don't know what S-expressions are. Are they have DTD?
They're just our friendly bracketed lists. Useful for all purposes.
> XML - is "standard" aproch.
XML is a W3C recommendation. Scheme has an IEEE standard. Which is more
standard? (And who cares? S-expr and XML are roughly equivalent, anyway.
No sense spending time using XML parsers if your components can handle
S-exprs.)
> The problem is to rollback "cached objects".
> I've collected some data from database in goops objects. Afterwards
> I have modified it and rollback. It is too expecive getting objects
> from database everytime isn't it? So we are having two copies of
> objects -- in guile and database and they must by synchronisied.
I'm still confused by this. Yes, it is relatively expensive, but if you
have a transaction underway in one database connection, you can't reliably
take objects obtained over other connections and expect to keep integrity,
if I understand it correctly.
> You need set of html-generating functions? Make it youself and you will
> never find youself in troubles of spending time in hacking another library.
LAML is already out there... another thing I must try.
> If you need a high-level schemish tool to make out entire web site --
> look for HB, as it was advised in the list. It is a great tool.
Yes, I will look at HB. It looks quite promising as far as that model of
operations goes.
> I was tring to invent a big application server and this is another task i
> have no enough brains for.
Yes, I'm probably being over-ambitious. My hope was to break the
page-script equivalence by using something like the send/suspend seen in the
PLT webserver with the better library support of guile. Whether breaking
that equivalence is a good idea, or whether explicit state-saving with
sessions is a better idea is a dilemma I don't have the answer to yet.
> And, sorry, but i have to give up with this thread -- I lack
> good thoughts and have almost no free time :) -- but will read your
> answer eventualy.
Aw, that's a shame. I thought some of your thoughts were quite interesting.
--
MJR
- Re: Re: Web development, (continued)
- Re: Re: Web development, Sergey Dolin, 2001/11/09
- Re: Web development, MJ Ray, 2001/11/09
- Re: Re: Web development, Sergey Dolin, 2001/11/11
- Re: Re: Web development, Chris Cramer, 2001/11/11
- Re: Web development, MJ Ray, 2001/11/11
- Re: Re: Web development, Sergey Dolin, 2001/11/13
- Re: Web development, Keith Wright, 2001/11/14
- Re: Re: Web development, Sergey Dolin, 2001/11/14
- Re: Web development, Keith Wright, 2001/11/17
- Re: Web development, Niklas Höglund, 2001/11/14
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- Re: Web development, MJ Ray, 2001/11/12
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- Re: Web development, Alejandro Forero Cuervo, 2001/11/13
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