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Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?

From: Ricardo Wurmus
Subject: Re: Promoting the GNU Kind Communication Guidelines?
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 12:23:28 +0200
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Hello Mathieu,

> Mathieu Lirzin <address@hidden> skribis:
>> Following the announcement made by RMS regarding the new GNU Kind
>> Communication Guidelines (GKCG) [1], I would like to know if the Guix
>> developpers in particular its maintainers would agree to adopt it in
>> place of the current Code of Conduct (CoC)?
> Speaking for myself: no.  I think the GKCG fails to address important
> issues, such as defining what’s acceptable and what’s not as well as
> clear processes to address this.

[Apologies for the delay; I’m currently traveling.]

Adding to what Ludovic wrote, I also would not want to replace the
current proven Contributor Covenant with the recently emerged GKCG.
Using *both* of them would not be useful, I think, as I find our current
CoC to be sufficient; using *only* the GKCG and dropping the existing
CoC would be a mistake in my opinion, as our CoC describes a process
which the GKCG does not.

Committing to a process to deal with grievances is a very desirable
feature of our current CoC that I don’t want to give up.  As one of the
people who shares responsibility for dealing with incidents of
harassment or misunderstandings, this helps me do a better job.

Even so, I encourage people to continue to engage in fostering kind
communication in the channels of the Guix project, something that this
community by and large does very well.

>> Adopting the GKCG instead of a CoC would help attracting people (like
>> me) who agree to use a welcoming and respectful language which
>> encourages everyone to contribute but are reluctant in contributing to
>> any project following a CoC due to its punitive nature and the politics
>> of its authors [2][3].

To me the politics of the author(s) of the original or current version
of the Contributor Covenant don’t play much of a role in prefering it as
a practical guiding document for this community.  (I don’t know the

I think I see how it could be seen as “punitive”, but I don’t share this
assessment.  We all want what’s best for the project and the people who
currently work on or consider working on it — to me the emergence of the
GKCG is more evidence that this is true.  I hope that seeing these
similarities in intent more than the differences in implementation will
allow you to overcome your feeling of reluctance to contribute to Guix
(and other projects that have decided to adopt a CoC).


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