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Re: Re-approaching package tagging

From: Catonano
Subject: Re: Re-approaching package tagging
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 12:34:31 +0100

Il giorno mar 18 dic 2018 alle ore 08:48 Catonano <address@hidden> ha scritto:

Il giorno lun 17 dic 2018 alle ore 22:10 swedebugia <address@hidden> ha scritto:
Hi :)

On 2018-12-17 20:01, Christopher Lemmer Webber wrote:
> Hello,
> In the past when we've discussed package tagging, I think Ludo' has been
> against it, primarily because it's a giant source of bikeshedding.  I
> agree that it's a huge space for bikeshedding... no space provides more
> bikeshedding than naming things, and tagging things is a many to many
> naming system.
> However, I will say that finding packages based on topical interest is
> pretty hard right now.  If I want to find all the available roguelikes:
> address@hidden:~$ guix package -A rogue
> hyperrogue    10.5    out     gnu/packages/games.scm:3652:2
> roguebox-adventures   2.2.1   out     gnu/packages/games.scm:1047:2
> Hm, that's strange, there's definitely more roguelikes that should show
> up than that!  A more specific search is even worse:
> address@hidden:~$ guix package -A roguelike
> address@hidden:~$
> What I should have gotten back:
>   - angband
>   - cataclysm-dda
>   - crawl
>   - crawl-tiles
>   - hyperrogue
>   - nethack
>   - roguebox-adventures
>   - tome4
> So I only got 1/4 of the entries I was interested in in my first query.
> Too bad!
> I get that we're opening up space for bikeshedding and *that's true*.
> But it seems like not doing so makes things hard on users.
> What do you think?  Is there a way to open the (pandora's?) box of tags
> safely?

Yes and no.

Pjotr and I have discussed this relating to biotech software. He said
that many scientists have a hard time finding the right tools for the job.

I proposed tight integration with wikidata[1] (every software in the
world will eventually have an item there) and Guix (QID on every package
and lookup/catogory integration) and leave all the categorizing to them.
Ha problem sidestepped, they are bikeshedding experts over there in
wikiland! :D

The advantage of this is that everyone using wikidata (every package
manager) could pull the same categorization so we only do it once in a

What do you think?


There is also the Free Software Directory

I don't know what the relationship between Wikidata and the FSD is

Does Wikidata import data from the FSD ? Or viceversa ?

There happens to be this thread on their mailing list, I think it's relevant (the whole thread is interesting)

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