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Re: Guix and FSDG
Re: Guix and FSDG
Mon, 25 Nov 2019 22:39:47 +0100
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019 at 19:00, Ludovic Courtès <address@hidden> wrote:
> Clément Lassieur <address@hidden> skribis:
> > Indeed 'guix build --source' returns the freed source. However, the
> > original archive does end up in /gnu/store, and its path in displayed
> > during the build.
> (Only if you build from source, without substitutes, etc.)
If I read correctly, Clément just points out inaccuracies of the
David's answer :
The most important
part of this process is that the original source archive is *never*
accessible to the Guix user via any Guix tools.
Correct, even if Guix tools is vague. Is "guix repl" a Guix tools? :-)
The original archive
is discarded and does not end up in the canonical location for Guix
Incorrect, as Clément shows. And it is not a bug of the very
particular zpaq package, but a general feature of how Guix works.
Therefore, Guix has taken sufficient
technical measures to avoid steering its user towards nonfree software
and thus Guix is compliant with the FSDG.
> The spirit of the FSDG is that the distro must not provide, recommend, or
> link to non-free code, and I think Guix is following that to the letter.
We all agree on that. I guess.
In the initial Raghav's message, it seems that the argument is:
because Guix downloads non-free code in order to install free
software, then Guix does not follow the FSDG. This argument misreads
the current FSDG. For example, any GNU/linux distribution needs to
download non-free blobs and then removes them. Even, the FSDG webpage
 points to scripts  that remove these non-free blobs. The
keyword in the FSDG is "installable" and nothing is said about
"download", from my understanding.
> For the record, this issue was discussed in the early days of Guix and I
> don’t think anything has changed since then. The current behavior of
> ‘guix build --source’ stems from those discussions (that was ca. 2015,
> but I can’t find the links now).
I have not found neither.
However, from my perspective, all this seems more a troll than a real issue. :-)
All the best,
Re: Guix and FSDG, Giovanni Biscuolo, 2019/11/23