Re: drop net-tools from %base-packages?

[Marius Bakke]

Ludovic Courtès <address@hidden> writes:

> Hello Simon!
>
> Simon Josefsson <address@hidden> skribis:
>
>> I'm not sure how to best find out what tools are actually used by Guix,
>> but on my system the following tools appear to be installed:
>>
>> root@hamster ~# ls -la /run/current-system/profile/*bin/|grep net-tool|awk 
>> '{ print $9 }'
>> netstat
>> route
>> arp
>> ipmaddr
>> iptunnel
>> mii-tool
>> nameif
>> plipconfig
>> rarp
>> slattach
>> root@hamster ~# 
>>
>> Is anything else from net-tools used?
>>
>> Most of the tools are esoteric.  I suspect the more well-known tools are
>> 'route', 'netstat', 'arp' and 'rarp'.
>
> Of these I use ‘netstat’ regularly, and ‘route’ sometimes.

I've finally gotten used to 'ss' to the point where I reach for it
before 'netstat'.  It's also shorter to type, like 'ip r' vs 'route'.

>> My Debian buster laptop has none of the tools above installed.  In fact,
>> the net-tools package is not even installed by default.  It seems all
>> uses have transitioned over to the modern 'iproute' suite.
>>
>> Thus, I suggest Guix drop net-tools from its required tools.  People who
>> are nostalgic about the tools can install them separately, just like on
>> Debian.
>
> That sounds reasonable to me.
>
> Any objections, people?  If not let’s do that.

None from me, I've considered this in the past too.

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