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Re: How can we decrease the cognitive overhead for contributors?
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Giovanni Biscuolo |
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Re: How can we decrease the cognitive overhead for contributors? |
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Fri, 08 Sep 2023 12:25:04 +0200 |
Hi!
Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> writes:
[...]
> For example, we communicate in English. It appears to me impossible to
> send a contribution without having some basic knowledge of English.
And, believe me or not, for me /that/ is a **significant** cognitive
overhead not just to contribute to international projects [1] (including
our company internal projects), but also to efficiently communicate in
international mailing lists like this one.
For me (actually for all) using a natural language, especially a foreign
one, is a constant hack! :-)
[...]
> What is the thing that will tell me that the English I wrote is not
> meeting the standard?
> Why do we accept this “friction” about English filtering people?
>
> Well, I am stretching a bit to make my point. :-)
Yes, it's a stretch but IMO it helps making the poing about the sources
of friction when participating in discussions and trying to contribute
to a "crowded" international project, with people with very different
competences in English language, including technical English,
programming languages **and** tools.
[...]
>> In the US, the phrase "I don't buy it" is usually the response to
>> someone trying to trick you into something. This is a little hurtful
>> because it's either saying:
>
> Sorry, it was not my intent. I was expressing: I do not believe it is
> *the* real problem.
(Let me use some humor please)
The frinction here comes from the fact that all natural languages suck,
no one sucks less :-O
The 5th definition of the transitive verb "buy" taken from
Merriam-Webster is:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
5: ACCEPT, BELIEVE
I don't buy that hooey.
— often used with into
buy into a compromise
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
So AFAIU "I don't buy it" means "I dont's [accept|believe] it": no?
...but maybe the Merriam-Webster is too British :-D
[...]
Happy haking! Gio'
[1] have you an idea of the time I spend to translate concepts to be
expressed in commit message in English? Why I cannot just write in my
very good Italian and "git send-email" happily?
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Giovanni Biscuolo
Xelera IT Infrastructures
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