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Re: [Health] Name vs Last Name in Tryton vs GNU Health / Expiry dates fo
Christoph H. Larsen
Re: [Health] Name vs Last Name in Tryton vs GNU Health / Expiry dates for lot numbers in stock management
Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:12:49 +0430
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Thanks a lot for your input. I have no problems with the extra "Last
Name" field (and have hidden it via ---- in our environment), but the
problem is the (seemingly) conflicting use in conjunction with the
"Name" field. Here we go:
I enter the names as you intended, when designing GNU Health, i.e.
"Name" gets "Wolfgang Amadeus", and "Last Name" gets "Mozart".
Then, Tryton lists the party "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart" as "Wolfgang
Amadeus", only, which is less that ideal, and does not help searching in
the "Party" domain, used for general hospital management.
If I enter "Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart" into the n"Name" field, and
re-enter "Mozart" into the "Last Name" field, Tryton lists its parties
alright, but GNU Health welcomes me with "Mozart, Wolfgang Amadeus
Mozart"... too much of an opera I guess.
So, I have, for now decided to enter the full name into the "Name" field
and make the "Last Name" field invisible to the ordinary user groups via
permissions set to --- (or r-w-c-d-).
Am I missing something?
Thanks a lot!
On 24/01/12 22:55, Luis Falcon wrote:
> Hi Chris !
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Christoph H. Larsen
> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>>
> Dear Crowd,
> I continue to be a bit confused by the "Name" and "Last Name fields in
> Tryton, and their use in GNU Health.
> In Tryton itself, I got the impression that "Name" should be the FULL
> name of the respective party, e.g. "John Cage". The "Last Name" field
> was an addendum to clearly determine, which name component is the
> surname (here: "Cage"), and is subsequently used by Tryton's reporting
> If, still in Tryton, I enter only the first name ("John") into the
> "Name" field, and "Cage" into the "Last Name" field, I get only "John"
> in the Party listing and letters/reports - which is hardly desirable.
> So, while this:
> Name: John Cage | Last name: Cage
> works in Tryton, with a listing as "John Cage", and letters
> addressed to it,
> the same yields a patient name of "Cage, John Cage". Ouch!
> Given the multitude of different countries GNU Health is (going to be)
> used in, Tryton's philosophy of stating the full name, and then again
> the surname (or name used for politely addressing the respective party)
> makes sense. Example:
> "Minh Anh Quan Trung" in Vietnam is the full name of a person, but the
> surname is Minh (East Asian naming order). To make life more
> complicated, in many countries surnames are kind of ignored, and I am
> just "Dr. Chris" - nice touch, though ;-).
> So, as a minimum we need Tryton and GNU Health use the above fields in
> the same manner. Or am I missing something?
> I believe Name and Lastname is very country-dependent, so I believe that
> countries that require a different scenario can make it into the
> localization effort.
> Certainly is required in western countries, and is great for searching
> and ID
> What I have done is not making the lastname a required field, so if you
> don't use it, is still OK. Of course, lots of room for improvement.
> Probably a good idea is to show the field depending on the country the
> Health Center is in ? But then, you can always have a foreign patient,,
> holder of a passport where the lastname is key.
> Thanks a lot for your input and we will work on this !
> Unrelated question: I have not yet gotten into Tryton's stock
> management, but for pharmaceutics and lab reagents, this will be
> essential. Can we enter expiry dates to lot numbers?
> Definitely. In the case of vaccines, I have included the expiration date
> on it, but the best place to do it is in the lots.
> Thanks a lot everyone!
> Bests from Kabul,
> Dr. Christoph H. Larsen
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