Re: [Health] PUID on Patieent Information

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:40 PM, Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi Luis
Long time I have been far from coding for study reasons, and I couldnt follow / continue this discussion

On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Luis Falcon <address@hidden> wrote:
Hi Carlos !

On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 05:34:41 -0500
Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto <address@hidden> wrote:

> Dear Coders
>
> I was reviewing some of the block fo code related to gnu health in
> order o understand how gnuhealth is managing patient and party
> relationship, how ever I have noiced ( GNU Health 3.0.5 )

You should upgrade to 3.2.x ;-)

>
> 1. On health/view/gnuhealth_patient_form, about identification code,
> thre is a comment "You might also want to use the Health_archives
> module", I guess this is the most natural way of working with paper
> archives, however I dont understand the reason of taking of this kind
> of information that could be so important in order on search this
> field.

Most health institutions have their own clinical / patient history
record. This is translated to "Medical Record" type on the "Alternative
IDs" of the person.

It's useful when, for example, the data has been imported / merged
to GNU Health from different health institutions, or from paper-based
(archives) records.

Yes, I have seen it, however, as you write, is just an alternative ID; that "could" no "must" be used for medical records.

>
> 2. About PUI on the same, about the code, is using itw own secuence,
> however t the same code, it is using the party PUID, then my question
> is why is the reason on havingits own sequence number if the patient
> PUID will take this code from the party, I guess the patient PUID
> must be unique and use its own sequence, since it will have its own
> natural sequence as a patient, that most of time won be the same as
> the partu that couldnt no be a patient

In the PUID, unless specified, GNU Health generates an alphanumeric
string of the form

"XXXNNNZZZ" automatically.

Yes, I have seen this code

, however is not useful at all

This applies to parties that are physical persons ("people"
attribute). When the party is not a physical person, the "NP-" (for
"non-person") is prefixed to the string, and it won't be shown on the
main form.

>
> My questions:
>
> 1. is there a way to get back the identification code on patient?

Yes. People and Patients can be searched by any type of ID (PUID or
alternative IDs).

I guess, my question was no clear

> 2. is there a way to use the patient sequence on patient instead of
> party PUID?

You can override the PUID method and use a sequence instead. However,

it won't be unique, since that sequence will be the same in every
institution you install GNU Health HMIS, and that is not good.

I understand you point of view, however I dont understand what you said "

it won't be unique", if it could be a generated secuence like other secuences or like patient secuence

Starting GNU Health 3.2, we are linking the GNU Health HMIS with the
GNU Health Federation (see https://pypi.python.org/pypi/thalamus ).
That's part of the reason to have the GNU HEalth Federation ID, to be
able to have single and up-to-date demographics and medical
history of the person across distributed, heterogeneous networks.

Thank you for your feedback and hope this helps !

My reason on this topic is since most of medical centers has its ownn PUID for medcal records, and having, on my side the

"XXXNNNZZZ" generated no always must be the used on each medical center. I am guessing that I must overwride it in order on make the PUID use patient secuence as the medical center decide.
Probable could be nice or a good ide having also a way to manage it as HMIS, but I dont really know if could be usefull to force medical center use just this way of generated numbers

Best regards

All the best
Luis
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From:	Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
Subject:	Re: [Health] PUID on Patieent Information
Date:	Thu, 19 Oct 2017 15:30:22 -0500