[Heartlogic-dev] Re: [cyclify-austin] is there nl gen in OpenCyc or Research Cyc? (fwd)

[William L. Jarrold]

Hi Guys,

Meant to forward you this before.

I wanted to check into the possibility of using random asssertions
and random deductions from Cyc (as per my rumination paper previuosly 
mentioned) as stuff to put up on the website.  You can see me doing this 
below.

The bottom line summary of the below is thaht we will probably all have to 
sign an agreement like the below.  See...

http://researchcyc.cyc.com/apply

...and we will probably have to get special permission to put Cyc's NL 
generations on the Web.  I could be completely and utterly wrong about 
this, it is just my best guess.

Anyway this is a way way premature time to be discussing this.  Lets get a 
prototype up.

Bill

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:04:24 -0500
From: John De Oliveira <address@hidden>
Reply-To: address@hidden
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [cyclify-austin] is there nl gen in OpenCyc or Research Cyc?

The answer is that OpenCyc 1.0 will do just enough NL to pass your tests
(Show English and Show Assertions in English) but no more, and you won't
really have NL generation functions available. The real NL functionality
is in ResearchCyc. Just jump in. The ResearchCyc waters are fine once
your in. (Unlike Barton Springs, which is freezing no matter how long
you stay in! This despite what Guy told me.)

Instructions for applying for ResearchCyc are at:
http://researchcyc.cyc.com/apply

- John D.

William L. Jarrold wrote:

> Dear Austin Cyclists,
>
> I am interested in tapping Cyc's NL generation capabilities.
>
> (1) Is nl-gen functionality in opencyc?  Apparently not.  See below.
> Else, please tell me how to access it.
>
> (2) Is nl-gen a part of research cyc?
>
> ...Okay, below is why I believe nl-gen is not a part of opencyc (note:
> there may be an easy fix for a typo in the docs, see allcaps below!!!)
>
> Startign at http://opencyc1.cyc.com:3602/cgi-bin/cyccgi/cg?cb-start I
> went to this part of Docs...
>
> NL Generation
>
> ...and found this blurb...
>
> In order to see the English version of a CycL statement, click on the
> ball next to the rule, and then, on the next page, click [Show
> English].
>
> ...next I viewed several assertions including...
>
> (#$genls #$Dog #$CanineAnimal)
>
> ...but, alas found that there was no [show english] on which to
> click....I also noted this blurb in the same section...
>
> You can also choose to see all assertions in English as the default,
> by going to the "Options" menu and selecting "Show assertions in
> English".
>
> ...I did not find an "Options" menu.  Might this be "Preferences." [IF
> SO THAT'S THE EASY FIX I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!!]  If so, I clicked on
> "Preferences" and there found a section on "NL Options <...> NL
> Generation:" but I did not find an option similar to "Show assertions
> in English".
>
> ...My quick search through the API also did not yield any nl gen
> functions.
>
> ...Well hopefully I have at least found an easy fix for a doc typo.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
>
>
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