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Re: Cfengine sources


From: John Sechrest
Subject: Re: Cfengine sources
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 09:28:44 -0700


If savannah is going away, then we should plan an orderly converstion
to another site. Gforge or sourceforge can work.

but I would like to get confirmation and validation about the 
savannah changes. Anyone got a link to a notice?

   


address@hidden writes:

 % 
 % Sure - make it public, if we are keeping Savannah. If we're not ...
 % 
 % M
 % 
 % On 14 Apr, John Sechrest wrote:
 % > 
 % > 
 % > Clearly, I have missed something. When I go to 
 % > 
 % > https://savannah.gnu.org/mail/?group=cfengine
 % > 
 % > I see three lists...
 % > 
 % > 
 % > Ahhh. I see. The cfengine-develop mail list is marked private.
 % > 
 % > Shall I make it public?
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > 
 % > Chip Seraphine <address@hidden> writes:
 % > 
 % >  % Eh?  When clicking on the"mailing lists"  link, all I see are good ol' 
 % >  % bugs-cfengine and help-cfengine.  (Or are you talking about "bugs"?)
 % >  % 
 % >  % On Wednesday 14 April 2004 08:56, address@hidden wrote:
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > There is such a list on the GNU Savannah site. No one uses it.
 % >  % > M
 % >  % > 
 % >  % > On 14 Apr, Chip Seraphine wrote:
 % >  % > > 
 % >  % > > A good first step might  be to either create a "cfengine-devel" 
list (or, 
 % >  % to 
 % >  % > > be really trendy, you could call it "cfengine-hackers" [*cough*]) 
for 
 % >  % > > discussion of features and ports and bugfixes and such (or would 
solutions 
 % >  % to 
 % >  % > > bugs be discussed on the bugs list?).  This might help build the 
 % >  % development 
 % >  % > > community you are looking for.... besides, if cfengine is going to 
the 
 % >  % > > traditional Open Source priveleged-group-that-has-commit-access 
route, a 
 % >  % > > mailing list will be needed for them (unless we want to overload 
-help or 
 % >  % > > -bugs) anyway.  
 % >  % > > 
 % >  % > > 
 % >  % > > On Monday 12 April 2004 06:36, address@hidden wrote:
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> Thank you, that is very kind. I would like to ave a technical
 % >  % > >> workshop at some point to discuss development. I have tried
 % >  % > >> to keep together a group whom I trust for a while but we have been
 % >  % > >> unlukcy with people changing jobs etc.
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> M
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> On 12 Apr, Kurt Lieber wrote:
 % >  % > >> > On Mon, Apr 12, 2004 at 01:19:51PM +0200 or thereabouts, 
 % >  % > > address@hidden wrote:
 % >  % > >> >> Don't worry, I will never abandon cfengine without replacing it
 % >  % > >> >> with something better. However, my direct involvement in
 % >  % > >> >> changes can no longer go beyond core activities and I hope
 % >  % > >> >> that the final of these issues will be resolved i the next
 % >  % > >> >> major release.
 % >  % > >> > 
 % >  % > >> > OK, that's good to hear. :)
 % >  % > >> > 
 % >  % > >> >> I need to have tight control over development until the these
 % >  % > >> >> are fully implemented. After that, it will be easier for
 % >  % > >> >> others to contribute more freely (of course this does not mean
 % >  % > >> >> that they will...).
 % >  % > >> > 
 % >  % > >> > Gentoo Linux relies on cfengine heavily for its infrastructure.  
If/
 % >  % when 
 % >  % > > it
 % >  % > >> > comes to the point where you'd like to seek outside help, we'd 
be happy 
 % >  % to
 % >  % > >> > help with recruiting and publicity.  In fact, if there's 
anything we 
 % >  % can 
 % >  % > > do
 % >  % > >> > to help, let me know and I'm happy to do what we can.
 % >  % > >> > 
 % >  % > >> > --kurt
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> 
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 % >  % > >> Work: +47 22453272            Email:  address@hidden
 % >  % > >> Fax : +47 22453205            WWW  :  http://www.iu.hio.no/~mark
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 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> 
 % >  % > >> _______________________________________________
 % >  % > >> Help-cfengine mailing list
 % >  % > >> address@hidden
 % >  % > >> http://mail.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-cfengine
 % >  % > >> 
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 % >  % 
 % >  % _______________________________________________
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 % > 
 % > -----
 % > John Sechrest          .         Helping people use
 % >                         .           computers and the Internet
 % >                           .            more effectively
 % >                              .                      
 % >                                  .       Internet: address@hidden
 % >                                       .   
 % >                                               . 
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                          .            more effectively
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