|Subject:||RE: [h-e-w] Gnus, anyone?|
|Date:||Wed, 19 Dec 2001 15:32:00 -0500|
I had a perfectly working gnus with since emacs 19.43 in combination with epop3-mail, but epop3-mail can't be used with emacs 21.1 as it tries to defalias two now builtin functions. I have been trying to get this fixed, but are having trouble with the mail-source function. So I am very interested in a standard gnus which obviates the need for epop3-mail, and was very happy to read Bill's message. However, I just did a grep in the emacs/lisp/gnus directory for pop3-leave-mail-on-server and it is simply not mentioned anywhere. This is in the NTemacs 21.1 distribution that uses gnus 5.9.0. In what version of gnus can you leave the mail on the server?
- -----Original Message-----
- From: Bill Pringlemeir [mailto:address@hidden]
- Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 15:21
- To: Paul Kinnucan
- Cc: Peter Davis; address@hidden
- Subject: Re: [h-e-w] Gnus, anyone?
- >>>> Peter Davis writes:
- >> 1) I can't get messages to print to a network printer.
- I don't think this is Gnus specific.
- >> 2) I can't get it to leave mail on a POP3 server so I can read it
- >> from multiple locations. (I've read that epop3mail is able to do
- >> this, but I have not gotten it to work.)
- See docs for `mail-sources',
- (pop :server "pop3.mailserver.com" :user "myname")
- This use to leave mail on a pop server,
- (setq pop3-leave-mail-on-server t)
- At any rate, IMAP is far superior for this. I use IMAP at home to my
- email server at work. I use POP to get mail at work. I can view new
- mail when I am at home this way, and don't keep any work information
- on my home PC. I found that it was a large waste of disk space to
- keep all email in two places. My home PC runs Linux and my work PC
- uses NT; both are running Emacs and Gnus.
- >> 3) I can't get it to do the "right thing" with HTML mail, which
- >> would be to allow me to either display it as plain text, or to
- >> open a browser (*not* W3) to display it.
- I generally discard it.
- ;; Show plain text over markup.
- (setq mm-discouraged-alternatives
- (append mm-discouraged-alternatives '("text/html" "text/richtext")))
- (setq gnus-article-wash-html nil)
- (setq mm-inline-override-types '("text/html"))
- >>>>> "PK" == Paul Kinnucan <address@hidden> writes:
- PK> I'm a bit further down this path than you. I tried the gnus for
- PK> news and email route and hated it almost instantly. I now use the
- PK> right tool for the right job, namely gnus for news and vm for
- PK> email. I cannot recommend vm highly enough. It is a full-fledged
- PK> email client, with folders, attachments, and pop3
- VM is probably an easier route. I think that this highly depends on
- the amount of mailing list that you subscribe to. There is very
- little difference between a news group and a mailing list IMHO. In
- this case all of the features of Gnus (like scoring, etc) help in
- managing large amounts of email. Also, using one client for both mail
- and news is nice from the stand point of having to learn only one
- package. Although emacs packages are usually very good at keeping the
- default key bindings uniform.
- It was very difficult to setup Gnus to read email the way I wanted.
- It took a long time, with many intermediate steps. I think it was
- well worth it though. The good thing is that Gnus understands many
- different mail backends and you can `import' the mail messages at any
- later time. `gnu.emacs.gnus' would probably be a much more helpful
- place than here for resolving Gnus issues.
- I have been using Gnus since July 1998 according to Google/Deja, so
- take my advice in that context. Anyways, the message is more
- important than the MUA ;-)
- Bill Pringlemeir.
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