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Re: loading site start before .emacs


From: Micha Feigin
Subject: Re: loading site start before .emacs
Date: Tue, 18 May 2004 15:16:18 +0300
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On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 07:15:17PM +1000, Tim X wrote:
> >>>>> "David" == David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:
> 
>  David> Micha Feigin <address@hidden> writes:
>  >> On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:08:46AM +0200, David Kastrup wrote: >
>  >> Micha Feigin <address@hidden> writes:
>  >> > 
>  >> > > Is it possible (and are there any issues) to make the site
>  >> startup > > files load before .emacs?
>  >> > > 
>  >> > > the desktop package seems to have problems with a lot of
>  >> things if they > > are not being loaded before desktop-read is
>  >> called (I had issues with > > ecp and now with preview-latex).
>  >> > 
>  >> > What issues?  preview-latex should work fine with desktop as
>  >> long as > the respective autoloads for AUCTeX (in tex-site.el) and
>  >> > preview-latex have already been defined.  This is not about
>  >> _loading_ > those packages, but about providing the necessary load
>  >> information > when desktop-read decides to call upon them.
>  >> > 
>  >> 
>  >> preview-latex is loaded automatically by the site file, so when I
>  >> open new latex files it is available.
> 
>  David> Obviously false.  preview-latex might be added into the
>  David> load-path by your site file, but that appears to be about it.
> 
>  >> When using desktop, unless I add (load "preview-latex") before
>  >> desktop-read then preview latex is not available for latex files
>  >> opened by desktop for some reason.
> 
>  David> (load "preview-latex") does not load preview-latex.  Take a
>  David> look at that file's contents.  It merely defines the autoloads
>  David> for preview-latex so that any references to preview-latex
>  David> functions will then cause preview-latex to be loaded.  In
>  David> addition, it enters the preview-latex setup function into
>  David> LaTeX-mode-hook.
> 
>  David> In short: preview-latex is most certainly not loaded, and not
>  David> even initialized, automatically by the site file as you claim.
> 
> I think some further evidence that the OP may be on the wrong track is
> that according to the emacs info pages, the site-startup.el file is
> loaded BEFORE the users .emacs file
> 

Thanks to the comments I found out my mistake. preview-latex is setup
properly. I just used bad examples for setting up mode hooks and used
setq instead of add-hood, which, if I understand correctly, removed
previous hooks, and thus removed the preview latex hook.

> ,---- From The Init File, `~/.emacs' Info Node
> | Your site may also have a "site startup file"; this is named
> | `site-start.el', if it exists.  Like `default.el', Emacs finds this
> | file via the standard search path for Lisp libraries.  Emacs loads this
> | library before it loads your init file.  To inhibit loading of this
> | library, use the option `-no-site-file'.  *Note Initial Options::.
> `----
> 
> Tim
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