Re: mthesaur v synonyms

[Hadron]

"Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com> writes:

>> Does anyone have an opinion on what is better?
>>
>> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/mthesaur.el
>> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/synonyms.el
>
> Yes, synonyms.el ;-).
>
>> The second is based on the first. The second seems to be "newer"
>> and has a cache so I am going with that for now.
>>
>> Does anyone have a patch to enable the command synonyms to show the
>> word-at-point in the command buffer when I call it using a kbd binding?
>> (It does assume the word at point but just doesn't show it in the
>> prompt).
>
> Not sure what you mean by "in the command buffer". If you mean the
> minibuffer, then just use `M-n' to pull the default value, which is
> the word

I did.

> at point, into the minibuffer as your input. Edit it if you like, before
> hitting RET.
>
> If you also use Icicles, and you want the default value to _always_ be
> inserted in the minibuffer as the initial input, then customize
> `icicle-init-value-flag' to `insert'. I personally prefer that behavior, but
> I think most people do not.

Any command which replies on word-at-point should default it IMO. I have
now got icicles ( cant say I like it at first attempt - there's a lot
there :)) and set the flag as above and its much better. Although if
something is pre-selected then typing should erase it, not append to
it. That would be a nice fix.

Do you know if I can stop f5 being bound by icicles by normal customization?

>
> If you also use thingatpt+.el, then `synonyms' will pick up the word nearest
> point as the default value - the cursor need not be exactly on a word.

Something else new to try....

Thanks for taking the time to reply.

>
> FWIW - Some vanilla Emacs prompts include the default value in the prompt -
> e.g. "(default: foobar)". I do not follow that convention in my code. 1) The
> default value is always available anyway as input via `M-n'. 2) I personally
> always have the default value inserted as the initial input
> (`icicle-init-value-flag' = `insert').
>
> Wrt #2: I prefer to have the value available immediately as editable input.
> Rather than waste prompt space, I use the input space - I can always empty
> the minibuffer (via `M-k' in Icicles) if I don't want to use the default
> value. In sum, I prefer to have to hit a key (`M-k') to get rid of an
> unwanted default value, rather than to have to hit a key (`M-n') to retrieve
> the default value. This is because I use the default value (possibly editing
> it) most of the time.
>
> HTH - Drew
>

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