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Anyone know where to find Weinreb's thesis? - Not in MIT catalog - (Janu
Anyone know where to find Weinreb's thesis? - Not in MIT catalog - (January 1979) A Real-Time Display-Oriented Editor for the Lisp Machine. -- How Zwei works Internally
Sat, 27 Oct 2012 16:36:20 -0700 (PDT)
On Oct 27, 1:24 pm, gnuist...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Sep 8, 3:25 am, Xah Lee <xah...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > DanielWeinrebDied ((1959 ~ 2012) Lisp
> > Programer)http://ergoemacs.org/misc/Daniel_Weinreb_died.html
> > plain text version follows
> > ------------------------------
> > DanielWeinrebdied today. Cancer. Aged 53. (≈1959 ~ 2012-09-07).
> > Obituary
> > athttp://www.legacy.com/obituaries/bostonglobe/obituary.aspx?page=lifes...
> > Danielfrequently use comp.lang.lisp. Since about 2007, i became
> > acquainted with him, because he responded to some of my lisp
> > criticisms. Subsequently i learned of his status in the lisp
> > community. Later have exchanged a couple email with him. I didn't know
> > he had cancer. Don't think he ever blogged about his illness.
> > DanielWeinrebused Emacs before Richard Stallman, and is a co-founder
> > of Symbolics, a lisp company during 1980s.
> > He told me about how emacs keybinding started.
> > Source groups.google.com.
> > From:DanielWeinreb〔d...@alum.mit.edu〕
> > User-Agent: Thunderbird 126.96.36.199 (Windows/20080421)
> > Newsgroups: comp.emacs,comp.lang.lisp
> > Subject: Re: effective emacs
> > xah...@gmail.com wrote:
> > │ Effective Emacs
> > │
> > │ (Long term emacs productivity tips.)
> > │
> > │ Xah Lee, 2008-05-29
> > │
> > │ I have used emacs daily since 1998. Typically, i spent several
> > hours
> > │ inside emacs, everyday, for the past 10 years.
> > Same for me, except the year is 1977. Nobody has been using Emacs
> > longer than I have (I was one of the original beta-testers. I
> > refer
> > here to the original Emacs, written in ITS TECO for the DEC 10.)
> > │ Emacs's default cursor moving shortcuts are “Ctrl+f”, “Ctrl+b”,
> > “Ctrl
> > │ +n”, “Ctrl+p”. The keys f, b, n, p are scattered around the
> > keyboard
> > │ and are not under the home row.
> > That's true. At the time Guy Steele put together the Emacs
> > default
> > key mappings, many people in the target user community (about 20
> > people at MIT!) were already using these key bindings. It would
> > have been hard to get the new Emacs bindings accepted by the
> > community if they differed for such basic commands. As you point
> > out, anyone using Emacs can very easily change this based on
> > their own ergonomic preferences.
> > │ GOOD
> > │ Microsoft Natural Multimedia keyboard
> > Let me put in a quick plug for my own favorite keyboard, which
> > I am using right now: the Unicomp Customizer:
> > http://pckeyboards.stores.yahoo.net/customizer.html
> > I like the feel of the keys very much. I agree with you
> > that it's important, and worth some effort, for everyone
> > to find a keyboard that they feel most comfortable with.
> > │ Problem and Why Emacs's Keyboard Shortcuts Are Painful.
> > I generally make few customizations to the key bindings, so
> > that when I work with another programmer, I can turn the
> > keyboard over to them and not cause confusion.
> > │ Steve advices users to “Lose the UI”.
> > I rarely use the menu bar. On the other hand, I was raised on an
> > Emacs that didn't have a menu bar, so I could be atypical. Using
> > the mouse to set point or set the region is great, though, and I
> > use that a lot.
> > Here's another piece of historical trivia. The Emacs keyboard
> > macro feature was inspired by a similar feature in the Stanford
> > DRAW system, an electrical CAD system widely-used by the AI lab
> > hardware hackers at the time. It was very powerful. But if you
> > made a mistake, it could really destroy your design, and so it
> > was a good idea to save to disk before running it. We had a
> > saying
> > for what happened if you forgot to save: "A moment of convenience,
> > a lifetime of regret." This predates the widespread use of "Undo"
> > functionality, surely one of the best ideas for user interfaces
> > ever invented.
> > -- Dan
> > Danielis a co-founder of the lisp company Symbolics. Sometimes, you
> > can see he speaks out on lisp history. Here's one: 〔Rebuttal to
> > Stallman's Story About The Formation of Symbolics and LMI 2007-11-11
> > ByDanielWeinreb. @ danweinreb.org (local copy
> > Daniel_Weinreb_rebuttal_to_stallmans_story.txt)〕
> > Danielalso wrote a version of emacs. EINE (EINE Is Not Emacs). Here's
> > quote from Wikipedia:
> > EINE (a recursive acronym standing for “EINE Is Not Emacs”) was
> > the Emacs text editor for Lisp machines. It was developed
> > byDanielWeinreband Mike McMahon in the late 1970s, with a command set the
> > same as the original Emacs written in TECO by Richard Stallman. It
> > would later be developed into ZWEI ( “ZWEI Was Eine Initially”), which
> > itself would eventually become Symbolics' Zmacs (integrated into
> > Symbolics' development for their Lisp machines, Genera). It was the
> > second Emacs written, and the first to be written in Lisp.
> > (for some emacs history, see: GNU Emacs and XEmacs Schism, by Ben
> > Wing.)
> > On occasion i criticized lisp's cons,Danielgently nudged me to give
> > detail. See: Programing Language: A Ruby Illustration of Lisp
> > Problems.
> > DanielWeinrebhimself have criticized Common Lisp. See: Common Lisp
> > Sucks.
> > One of the popular article Dan has written is a comparison of Common
> > Lisp implementations. 〔Common Lisp Implementations: A Survey
> > 2007-12-20 ByDanielWeinreb. @ Source common-lisp.net〕
> > When he announced that on comp.lang.lisp, i recommended the page be
> > broken to sub-pages, and other formatting issues. See: Monolithic Web
> > Pages. He didn't take it to heart. (and i regret my tone in the
> > criticism)
> > DanielWeinrebis also mentioned in the acknowledgement section in The
> > UNIX-HATERS Handbook. (see the PDF file at The Unix Pestilence.)
> > Dan's blog is at.http://danweinreb.org/blog/Lastentry is just 2
> > days ago, where he talks about learning French.
> > I feel sad that Dan is gone.
> > Xah
> Its very sad to hear that he has passed away.
> Perhaps, the best we can do to keep his legacy is to make sure all of
> the surviving works of this student of lisp are put online and made
> available to the coming generations.
> Here are his publications that I cant find anywhere on the internet.
> Xah, it seems that you might have a copy as you were a close friend
> and found out about his passing before any of us. What kind of cancer
> was he suffering from?
> Lisp Machine Zwei
> *Weinreb, Daniel L. & Moon, David (January 1979) The Lisp Machine
> Cambridge, Massachusetts: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory. --
> The user interface for Zwei.
> ibid. (January 1979) A Real-Time Display-Oriented Editor for the Lisp
> Machine. Cambridge, Massachusetts: S.B. Thesis, MIT Electrical
> Engineering and Computer Science Department. -- How Zwei works
> I would be very much interested in his BS thesis. Who has a copy of
> it? You? Stallman? MIT CS department? MIT depository?
> Maybe someone can pass this on to the Computer museum in Northern
> California or Herbert Stoyan who did extensive work on the Lisp or the
> Lucid people.