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Re: gnus & nnmaildir
Re: gnus & nnmaildir
Sat, 23 Aug 2014 14:23:08 +0200
Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux)
Emanuel Berg <address@hidden> writes:
>> My recommendation is to use gnus' native nnml format
>> rather than maildir and set up some (fancy) mail
>> splitting. Example for nnml:
>> (setq gnus-select-method '(nnml "yun"
>> (nnml-use-compressed-files ".bz2")
>> (nnml-compressed-files-size-threshold 65535)))
> Yes, I can recommend nnml as well!
> What I like about it is that it uses one file for each
> mail, and those are put in your user filesystem in
> directories that mimic the groups, so if you need to
> apply shell tools (extract information that way) it is
> all very clear how it works.
Having these groups is one of the big advantages over mutt. A big
disadvantage is that nnml is understood by gnus exclusively. In case
you want/need to be able to use different MUAs, maildir or imap work
much better for that.
There's also posting styles like:
(display . [not expire])
(gcc-self . "mail.sent")
":%U%R%z%I(%5k) %(%[%-23,23A%]%) %11&user-date; '%s\n")
(organization "my virtual residence")
> Splitting is a wonderful feature that makes mail as
> sweet as news. Here is an example how it is done:
> (setq nnmail-split-methods
It didn't take long before I found out that I need nnmail-split-fancy
--- I don't remember why, though I'd recomment to look into fancy
splitting right away. Here's an excerpt:
(setq nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy)
;; order DOES matter
;; (| split split split ... GROUP)
;; (& split split split ... GROUP)
;; split = (HEADER REGEXP GROUP)
;; If the split is `nil', it is ignored.
(setq nnmail-split-fancy '(|
;; mailing lists above
It takes quite a bit of getting used to and some trial and error to
figure it out. Once you get the hang of it it's easy. I guess it's
easier when you know elisp because things start to make sense; I learned
it only later.
> Splitting makes it possible to be on a lot of listbots
> but always with the same mail; and the inbox doesn't
> get flooded still, or it does, but organized and not in
> your face unless told so.
With mutt, I used an exim filter file. Gnus is rather slow with
splitting and sometimes with building a summary buffer --- compared to
mutt, which is really fast.
> And you can keep - what do they call it? "family?" -
> such mails can have a distinct directory (or group) as
Like I have "mail.per.<some person>" ...
>> You can, of course, stick to maildir and use it with
>> gnus, which saves you the conversion. I converted and
>> am not looking back to mutt; gnus is just too good :)
> Gnus is fantastic! It is just the best thing ever. I
> thought Emacs was great, now I know its better than
> You can just dodge the backend completely and focus on
> the client.
And you can read pretty much everything you want as mail ... With mutt,
I was using emacs as editor anyway. Over the years, I kept looking from
time to time if there's anything better. There never was until I tried
> The only thing I don't like with Gnus is the way it
> looks with the default options. I put a lot of work
> into that. I know Gnus is 100% programmable, but first
> impressions shouldn't be underestimated. For me, that
> was just educational and fun to change. But I fear lots
> of people won't be attracted to put that much time into
> it. I have a small fan page for Gnus, with a couple
> screenshots how I think it should look:
> dump - http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/dumps/new/group.png
> page - http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/index.html
Which font do you use? It looks good on the screenshots.
> Perhaps instead of saying this I should put together a
> Gnus theme? Is that something that people do?
Hm, I didn't make a theme. I'm using no window decorations for emacs
frames and green on black with the Source Code Pro font.
> I crosspost this to gnu.emacs.gnus, this perhaps we can discuss there,
> if anyone has ideas (though Gnus is certainly not off-topic on
Or ding.gnus.org? gnu.emacs.gnus doesn't look like a mailing list but
like an uncategorized forum, and there's no way to subscribe?
Perhaps we should put things on a gnus wiki, or make a category/pages
for gnus on the emacs wiki?
> Some people say they don't like writing and reading mails - let me
> tell you, if I couldn't type, and had to use Outlook, I would *detest*
Emails are the most important and most convenient way of communication
to me. Outlook is unsuited to deal with more than perhaps a handful of
emails per day, if that. Besides, there isn't any really good MUA for
> Tools, tools, tools... If you are in a beautiful, cool garden
> with the best shovel in the world, working on your digging skills,
> digging for ten hours straight is paradise.
Only if you love to dig.
> I don't know if I should bow because I am so grateful
> to Linux, Emacs, Gnus, and Usenet, *or* if I should
> pound myself on the chest for finding them, and nothing
> short of making them a part of me! Just unbelievable
You can always make contributions. The problem is that usually no one
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