Re: member returns list

[tomas]

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On Sat, Sep 12, 2015 at 02:18:07AM +0200, Emanuel Berg wrote:
> <tomas@tuxteam.de> writes:
> 
> > See [1] for the historical perspective. Without Lisp
> > machines there'd be no Smalltalk (and most of the OO
> > craze these days).
> 
> The 90s rather.
> 
> > Java owes a lot to Lisp.
> 
> That doesn't show :)

I wasn't thinking about the "taste" department [1]. They have
accumulated quite a bit of interesting stuff in terms of JIT,
optimization and so on -- but definitely the Big Enterprise Way,
usually by throwing tons of (mostly fungible) developers and money
at it. Have a look at Mike Pall's LuaJIT to see that this can be
done differently. OTOH I'm sure Mike Pall's path would have been
more dangerous and difficult had it not ben blazed earlier
(bulldozed?) by the Java JIT people.

But the pioneers on this path? Self & al. Again Lisp.

[1] I don't want to discuss taste & Java in one context. I've
just had breakfast.

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