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Re: [Emacs] request: better subject lines

From: tomas
Subject: Re: [Emacs] request: better subject lines
Date: Wed, 3 May 2017 10:49:50 +0200
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On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 11:12:05PM +0800, Danny YUE wrote:


> Sharp, but makes sense.

Sorry if it came across as "sharp". On a second reading I see what
you mean. That wasn't my intention.

See, I'm in this business for long enough and have seen this pattern
(degradating mail for all of us just for not knowing what is out
there). I'll refrain from enumerating all the examples but this
one: Microsoft, insisting on doing message threading based on
Subject instead of on Message-ID, just because their @#&%$ mail
client is too broken to correctly "do" Message-ID ultimately forces
their lower standard on all of us.

Now one can argue that some agents (Microsoft is surely among them,
but far from alone) have a deep financial stake on keeping mail semi-
broken: after all it's a decentral service, well-established, difficult
to silo. But seeing ourselves, who should be fighting to keep the last
few really free services out there in a working order following the
same pattern makes me... sad. Sometimes a bit angry. Sorry again.

I'll try to control my temper better the next time.

> Just take myself as an example: I am using mu4e in Emacs for viewing
> emails. It has information about "List" which shows which mailing list a
> new email comes from. 
> So I can definitely recognize this is from "EmacsUser" list and open
> it...
> You see, try some tools out and it may not be a problem any more.

Thanks for offering a constructive possibility :-)

- -- tomás
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