Re: Using R-mail in Emacs

[Devin Prater]

I'm still looking for a good way to use Gnus. I have a few email addresses, and 
putting in all the server info is quite a bit of work compared to 
other,non-Emacs clients, like Gmail, Apple Mail, and even Outlook. They look at 
the @domain, like @gmail.com, in the Email Address, and just get the server 
info from that, and its good.
I know that many probably use their own mail server, or do some mystical Emacs 
stuff to make it faster, but as a person who has come from the GUI all his 
life, but also loves the simple genius of a UI and UX that Emacs offers, I'd 
love to have the option to streamline all this, kind of like the setup for ZSH, 
which is just awesome., 

Devin Prater
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> On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:31 AM, Loris Bennett <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de> wrote:
> 
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> 
>>> From: "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett@fu-berlin.de>
>>> Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:34:10 +0200
>>> 
>>>> The oldest email in my INBOX is from 18 years ago, and I still need it
>>>> from time to time.  I guess time-based expiration is not for me.
>>> 
>>> The default is for articles not to expire - you have to mark an email
>>> explicitly as expirable for it to get deleted at some point.
>> 
>> If that is true (Robert seems to say it isn't by default), then Gnus
>> is not different from Rmail, where I explicitly delete messages I
>> don't want to keep (and filing them to an archive folder by default
>> marks it as deleted), and then expunge my INBOX once a week to
>> physically remove those marked for deletion.
> 
> I think Robert is incorrect here. In the documentation here
> 
>  https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Expiring-Mail.html
> 
> it says
> 
>  "Gnus will not delete your old, read mail. Unless you ask it to, of
>  course."
> 
>>> Does an email from my wife about school need to be filed in "family"
>>> or "school"?
>> 
>> At worst, you will have to search both folders, which is still better
>> than searching all of them.  And when that happens, it's an
>> opportunity to rethink the way you organized your folders.
>> 
>>> For this reason I find myself thinking that just one or two folders
>>> with a good search mechanism would be a more flexible solution.
> 
> The above is, indeed, me rethinking.
> 
>> When you have a good idea what is you are searching form,
>> i.e. remember some unique phrase or some other attribute, then folders
>> are entirely irrelevant, because you can search all of your archives
>> in milliseconds.  Folders are only of help when you don't have a good
>> idea what to search for, and only a very vague recollection of the
>> issue you want to find.
> 
> My problem is that there doesn't seem to be a pure IMAP solution for
> Emacs with which I can search 'in milliseconds'.  A worst case for me is
> more like 10 seconds, although ultimately I can also live with that.
> 
>>> PS: Eli, shouldn't that 18-year-old mail in your INBOX have been filed
>>> away into one of your two dozen folders by now 😉? Or is it maybe one of
>>> those tricky corner-cases 😅?
>> 
>> Filing mail away means it's out of sight.  There are things I don't
>> want to be out of my sight, ever.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Loris
> 
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