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Re: Why is Elisp slow?
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조성빈 |
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Re: Why is Elisp slow? |
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Mon, 6 May 2019 18:03:20 +0900 |
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2019. 5. 6. 오후 4:33, Tadeus Prastowo <tadeus.prastowo@unitn.it> 작성:
> On Sun, May 5, 2019 at 5:51 PM Stefan Monnier
> <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:> Language interoperation is very
> difficult, and even more so if you want
>> both languages to be usable "equally" (as opposed to a high-level
>> language with FFI bindings, say). The .NET platform aims to do just
>> that, and note that it's fairly complex and the most successful
>> languages there were specifically designed/tweaked for that platform.
>
> Out of curiosity, do you mind to elaborate on how it is to be usable
> "equally"? (I think the best way to understand it is by studying the
> .NET platform, but maybe you could explain it better).
I would say as ‘to do something in a way that is considered idiomatic in the
language’.
For example, some APIs (in general) makes sense when they use C++ templates or
Rust `impl` blocks; it doesn’t make sense to enforce type unsafety.
Some APIs makes sense when they are provided as Lisp macros or babel macros; it
doesn’t make sense to enforce boilerplate code.
Have you ever done FFI between two high level languages, e.g. Swift and Rust?
It’s a real pain, because the interfacing code can’t use any of the language
features as they should be defined by their common dominators: the SysV ABI.
You can’t use generics, tuples, lambdas, etc... even though both languages have
them.
It’s well, a somewhat similar experience.
> Thank you very much.
>
>> Stefan
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Tadeus
>
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- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, 조성빈, 2019/05/04
- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, Stefan Monnier, 2019/05/04
- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, Ergus, 2019/05/04
- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, 조성빈, 2019/05/04
- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, Stefan Monnier, 2019/05/05
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- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, Stefan Monnier, 2019/05/06
- Re: Why is Elisp slow?, 조성빈, 2019/05/06
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