Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces

[Bastian Beischer]

On Sat, Feb 23, 2019 at 11:29 AM Nate Bass <nw3455@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I compared my Gmail to the archives and I found that I wasn't
> receiving mail from one particular address moasenwood@zoho.eu and I
> think this caused me to bounce off the help-gnu-emacs mailing list.
>
> I started to miss messages on February 6 at 8:51 PST, while receiving
> all others on the mailing list. I missed at least one message each day
> from this address (25 missed total) until February 10 at 12:35 PST
> when I received a
> message stating:
> > Your membership in the mailing list help-gnu-emacs has been disabled
> > due to excessive bounces The last bounce received from you was dated
> > 10-Feb-2019.
>

Hi Nate,

I just wanted to say that I am suffering from the very same problem
since weeks. I'm using gmail and I've had to re-enable my membership
for help-gnu-emacs quite a few times already. Also I'm not receiving
any mail from Emanuel any more, although I used to a while back. It's
a shame really, his messages often made me smile :-)

I don't know much about the technical side of this, but it is
inconvenient. I also wonder how it is even possible that mail from
someone else causes my membership to be disabled?

Cheers
Bastian

>
> I did receive messages (about 5 or 6) from moasenwood@zoho.eu
> interspersed amongst
> the missed messages. I checked the headers of the ones I received and
> the ones I missed but I could not find any meaningful difference.
>
> I compared my Gmail to the archives by diffing the mbox files
> (https://superuser.com/a/990431/644460 if anyone wants to try) to be
> sure that I wasn't missing messages from any other address. I even
> checked Janurary and Feburary of emacs-devel and I could only find
> missed messages from moasenwood@zoho.eu.
>
> I can also confirm that, upon rejoining help-gnu-emacs on February 17,
> I did not receive this message
> https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2019-02/msg00312.html
> dated February 20. Maybe other users can check if they have this in
> their inbox and report if you are using gmail or something else?
>
> This issue raises two questions.
> 1) Why was I not receiving message from that address. Any thoughts
> Emanuel? I did receive your original post "Gmane up again" and some
> but not all of the following replies, if that helps.
> 2) Should the automatic bounce processing system be changed? I think
> my experience confirms that help-gnu-emacs has a bounce score
> threshold of 5.
>