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RE: Choir problems
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Schweikert, Martin {POYD~Kaiseraugst} |
Subject: |
RE: Choir problems |
Date: |
Fri, 08 Jun 2001 15:03:24 +0200 |
Mats,
you are a BRICK!
Thank you so much!
Best Regards / Mit freundlichem Gruss
Martin Schweikert
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mats Bengtsson [SMTP:address@hidden
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 11:06 AM
> To: Schweikert, Martin {POYD~Kaiseraugst}
> Cc: 'address@hidden'
> Subject: Re: Choir problems
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > Could somebody please point me to some files of choir musik I could learn
> > from? Ideally, there should be a piece for soprano solo and soprano, alto,
> > tenor, and bass - 1 staff for the solo voice, 1 staff for soprano & alto,
> > and 1 staff for tenor & bass, each of these staffs would have their own
> > lyrics.
>
> There are a few score at Mutopia for choir, but I'm not sure if
> they use the addlyrics feature.
>
> > Or, alternatively, could somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong in the ly
> > file attached to this mail.
>
> I did a few changes and now it should work without problems, see
> the attachment.
>
> > I started with the soprano solo (voice: SopranSoloStimme, lyrics:
> > SopranSoloText). This was fine - automatic melismata and all such sorts of
> > things.
> >
> > Then I added the soprano (voice: SopranStimme, lyrics: FrauenText; in fact,
> > the same lyrics are used for soprano and alto, so there is no need for
> > separate lyrics for soprano and alto).
> >
> > First problem: the automatic melismata do not work. Adding " \property
> > Voice.automaticMelismata > ÿ#t" to the soprano and alto voices does not
> > help - this leads to the weirdest error messages, one about an unfinished
> > legato in bar 50.
> >
> > OK, so I wrote the lyrics with explicit lengths. This worked, so far.
>
> If you read the manual carefully, you'll notice that \addlyrics takes
> two sequences of music as arguments, copying the rythm of the first
> one to the second one. Thus, when you entered
> \addlyrics
> \context Staff=Frauen \notes \SopranStimme
> \context Staff=Frauen \notes \AltStimme
> \context Lyrics=Frauen \FrauenText
> it used the rhythm from SopranStimme on the AltStimme but didn't
> do anything to the FrauenText. I changed it such that the lyrics
> used the rhythm of the soprano part. You also have to set
> automaticMelismata in every voice that's used as the first argument
> of \addlyrics. I actually set it in all voices of the full score
> with \property Score.automaticMelismata = ##t.
>
> In the reference manual, section "Lyrics", subsection
> "Automatic syllable durations" you can see how to instantiate
> contexts before calling \addlyrics if you for example want the
> lyrics on top of the staff.
>
> Some more comments:
>
> - It's a good practice to insert bar checks (using "|")
> for every bar. It really helps tracking down typing errors.
>
> - You had used slurs not only for slurred notes but also for
> tied-over notes. I changed those to ties ("~"). You had a
> couple of combinations of ties and slurs, which I then
> specified exactly as such, not as slurs and phrasing slurs.
> I kept one phrasing slur, though, since the corresponding
> lyrics included several syllables.
>
> - Specify dynamics using \mf, \f and so on. If you want them
> above the staff, just say \dynamicUp (see ly/property.ly
> for more of these convenient shorthands for property settings).
>
> - We should really add real support for Latin1 coded lyrics.
> At the moment, you get all the characters in the printed
> output, but since Lilypond doesn't recognize characters
> like äöß, it can't calculate the length of each syllable
> when it tries to adjust the note spacing to avoid collisions
> between syllables.
>
> > Then I began adding the alto voice (AltStimme), and the catastrophe began:
> > Look at bar 50: despite the 3/4 time, there is a half and two quarter notes
> > in it!>
>
> Since you copied the rhythm from the soprano and didn't use
> automaticMelismata in the soprano part, see above.
>
> /Mats
> << File: ich_weiss.ly >>
- Choir problems, Schweikert, Martin {POYD~Kaiseraugst}, 2001/06/07
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