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Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do
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Christian Grothoff |
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Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know? |
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Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:32:47 +0100 |
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On 02/22/2017 12:04 PM, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer wrote:
> Christian Grothoff (2017-02-21 13:43:56 +0100) wrote:
>
>> On 02/21/2017 11:04 AM, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer wrote:
>>>>> 7. The system is amenable to privacy-preserving analytics to check its
>>>>> impact.
>>>> I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but these two sound fraught with
>>>> distractions. Tor has many people who worked on 7. We do have ideas
>>>> around network size estimation that might be relevant depending upon
>>>> the scale and network properties.
>>> 6 refers to e.g. not storing/routing plain text but encrypted content
>>> (your own or other's). 7 I guess may be hard for such
>>> privacy-preserving systems, but at the very least having an idea on the
>>> size of the network would be very useful to assess the anonymity it
>>> actually provides.
>>
>> Well, then you should definitively check out this:
>>
>> https://gnunet.org/gnunet-nse-subsystem
>>
>> (Note that size of network and anonymity-set-size may not exactly be the
>> same thing. However, for checking social impact with respect to sponsors
>> and/or getting a first rough handle this ought to suffice.)
>
> Indeed, thanks! BTW, do you know about anyone who has run this to
> publish some estimates (academic paper or informal) about the current
> size of the network?
Well, we've not made a release in a while and the installation is
non-trivial, so the GNUnet network is still rather small. But it
doesn't take a study to figure it out, just run:
$ gnunet-nse
1487784422756253 93.986384 6.554380 2.409871
1487784422756253 Timestamp
93.986384 Current estimate (~94 peers)
6.554380 LOG2-of-estimate (raw value that was measured)
2.409871 std-dev of LOG
The result will be updated roughly hourly.
An academic paper about the method itself is here:
http://grothoff.org/christian/rrsize2012.pdf
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- [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer, 2017/02/20
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Jeff Burdges, 2017/02/20
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer, 2017/02/21
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Christian Grothoff, 2017/02/21
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Christian Grothoff, 2017/02/21
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer, 2017/02/22
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?,
Christian Grothoff <=
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer, 2017/02/24
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Christian Grothoff, 2017/02/24
- Re: [Help-gnunet] Building a new censorship circumvention tool: what do we need to know?, Ivan Vilata-i-Balaguer, 2017/02/24