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Re: Woctave-another gui front end


From: Sergei Steshenko
Subject: Re: Woctave-another gui front end
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 13:06:29 -0800 (PST)




----- Original Message -----
> From: Benjamin Abbott <address@hidden>
> To: Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden>
> Cc: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <address@hidden>; "address@hidden" 
> <address@hidden>
> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 11:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Woctave-another gui front end
> 
> On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>>  ________________________________
>>>  From: Benjamin Abbott <address@hidden>
>>>  To: Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden> 
>>>  Cc: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <address@hidden>; 
> "address@hidden" <address@hidden> 
>>>  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:51 PM
>>>  Subject: Re: Woctave-another gui front end
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  On Dec 20, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sergei Steshenko 
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> 
>>>>  From: Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso <address@hidden>
>>>>  To: Sergei Steshenko <address@hidden>
>>>>  Cc: Stephen Montgomery-Smith <address@hidden>; 
> "address@hidden" <address@hidden>
>>>>  Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2012 10:30 PM
>>>>  Subject: Re: Woctave-another gui front end
>>>> 
>>>>  On 20 December 2012 14:11, Sergei Steshenko 
> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>  Regarding open source but not quite free - have a look at METIS: 
>>>> 
> http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/metis/metis/faq?q=metis/metis/faq#distribute 
> .
>>>> 
>>>>  METIS is not open source nor free. If you forbid commercial use, 
> you
>>>>  are neither.
>>>> 
>>>>  - Jordi G. H.
>>>> 
>>>>  Metis _is_ open source. I _do_ download it and build it from 
> source. Download URLs:
>>>> 
>>>>  http://www.netlib.org/linalg/metis-4.0.tar.gz
>>>>  http://glaros.dtc.umn.edu/gkhome/fetch/sw/metis/metis-5.0.2.tar.gz
>>>> 
>>>>  , etc.
>>>> 
>>>>  You do _not_ have monopoly defining what freedom is.
>>> 
>>>  Regarding open source, I think Jordi is correct.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Ben
>> 
>>  FTA: "Generically, open source refers to a program in which the source 
> code is available to the general public for use and/or modification from its 
>>  original design free of charge, i.e., open.".
>> 
>>  I have published URLs using which the general public can download METIS 
> source free of charge. The URLs are _not_ of pirated SW kind.
>> 
>>  Regards,
>>    Sergei.
> 
> METIS is not generally available for use  for commercial purposes.  Hence, 
> not 
> open source.
> 
> Ben
>

The quoted sentence does _not_ mention commercial use. Open in this context 
means _not_ closed. I.e. one _can_ see the source.

So, if consider openness, (non) usage in commercial applications is irrelevant.


Regards,
  Sergei.


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