Re: install pkg

[James Russell]

Alexander, Ben,

Not sure whether this is a fink or an octave problem.

I've used fink to install Octave (successfully as far as the basics go) on my 
Mac.  This took so long (> 1.5 days of building), that in the meanwhile I build 
a Ubuntu machine out of an old MacBook and installed Octave there too (much 
easier).  

My principal motivation for installing Octave for the present is to explore 
wavelet transforms after I get cut off from Matlab in a couple of weeks.  So, 
following instructions on Octave Wiki, I used:

pkg install -forge signal

on both.  In each case, I got a complaint that 'signal' needed 'general' and 
'control'.  So, I tried 

pkg install -forge general 

I got:

pkg: unable to find the mkoctfile command, Octave installation is incomplete.

at which point progress towards my goal stopped.

fink problem?  Hard to know, there were literally thousands and thousands of 
lines of messages on the console as fink built Octave, 99.99999% of them 
scrolled off into the bit bucket.  A comment on this, if I may.  My recent 
coding experience (last several years) has been in Matlab.  I've found that if 
I print a lot of information to the command console, a program can take many, 
many times longer than if I don't.  What I do is include a command line 
argument 'verbose' and default it off, and send only the most essential stuff 
to the console.  A typical user, I expect, will not benefit from the thousands 
and thousands and thousands of lines of feedback at the console, but would 
benefit from substantially speedier execution.  Seriously, I thought it was 
possible it was in an endless loop, and considered killing it.  1.5 days is not 
hyperbole - it really took that long.

octave problem?  I don't know.  It's octave that is making the complaint.


In any case, wherever the problem comes from, any idea how to remedy it?  I 
looked in Fink Commander, but it found nothing on searching for mkoctfile.

Is there a light at the end of this tunnel?


Thanks for your generous help.

Jim


> On Nov 29, 2014, at 10:50 AM, Alexander Hansen <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 6:07 AM, Ben Abbott <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 12:53 AM, James Russell <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2014, at 6:12 AM, Ben Abbott <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 28, 2014, at 9:01 AM, c. <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Nov 2014, at 13:01, ESMERALDA PODA <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Here are the info:
>>>>>>> OSX Yosemite 10.10.
>>>>>>> Attached you find details about XCode
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> from what you previously posted I infer you are using the 
>>>>>> 3.8.0 binary distribution for OS X 10.9 (Mavericks), downloaded
>>>>>> forom OctaveForge, is that correct?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That version is not meant for use on OSX 10.10 Yosemite, 
>>>>>> if it happens to work that is by pure accident, but I doubt you
>>>>>> will ever be able to install packages with it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You need to reinstall Octave in order to be able to compile
>>>>>> the io package, currently the best options you have to do so
>>>>>> are via a package manager like Fink [1], Macports [2] or homebrew [3].
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I will probably  prepare a release of Octave 3.8.2 for OSX 10.10 
>>>>>> some time (late) next month, so if you are not confortable using a
>>>>>> package manager you may want to wait for that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> c.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> [1] http://www.finkproject.org/
>>>>>> [2] https://www.macports.org/
>>>>>> [3] http://brew.sh/
>>>>> 
>>>>> For Yosemite, I strongly encourage using Fink.  The help-list full of 
>>>>> many examples of individuals having trouble with both homebrew and 
>>>>> Macports on Yosemite.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ben
>>>> 
>>>> Ben,
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I tried fink.  I ran into a roadblock where it required Java be 
>>>> updated, I updated Java Runtime Environment, which is what it indicated, 
>>>> and got no progress.  A helpful supporter over at fink said not JRE, JDK, 
>>>> which it appears is Java Development Environment.  As I spelled out over 
>>>> at that forum there is no clear path to a JDK for Mac OS X 10.10.1 - not 
>>>> to say that there is no such thing, just that it is not clear where to 
>>>> find it.
>>>> 
>>>> I've spent non-trivial parts of days now trying to get Octave running on 
>>>> Mac OS X 10.10.1.  Can you tell me how to install JDK to get fink running 
>>>> to get ..............?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> I used google to search Apple's support site -> "site:support.apple.com  
>>> java jdk yosemite". The first link is below.
>>> 
>>>     http://support.apple.com/kb/dl1572
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>> 
> 
>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 10:42 AM, James Russell <address@hidden> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ben and others.  The link didn't work (don't know why - gave blank 
>> page repeatedly), but I did the same search starting from Apple and found 
>> the package.  Note to 'fink beginners' - nowhere is "JDK" referenced at the 
>> Apple site.  Remember, you're addressing "beginners".  I've administered 
>> systems for > 30 years, but I'm new to fink.
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
> 
> 
> Up until about the time 10.7 came out, Apple provided the Java for OS X.  To 
> build against it required the “Java SDK” from Xcode.  They then gave that up 
> and let Oracle handle Java, but still provide legacy support—albeit not in an 
> obvious place.
> 
> I’m in the middle of reworking the fink code to make it more obvious what 
> Java to download from where.
> -- 
> Alexander Hansen, Ph.D.
> Fink User Liaison
>