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Re: [Help-smalltalk] BLOX vs GTK

From: Luca Bruno
Subject: Re: [Help-smalltalk] BLOX vs GTK
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2006 20:35:28 +0200
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In data 05 ottobre 2006 alle ore 17:52:20, Jan Vrany <address@hidden> ha scritto:


Luca's mail reminded me one thing I'm thinking about.

We need a good development environment for GST -
workspace, convenient browser with refactoring
and source code management support, easy-to-use
inspector and debugger and lot of other support
tools. All in GUI.

Paolo, are there any documents about Blox?
About it's concept, implementation. Any
tutorial about creating gui applications in Blox?
I tried to read BloxBrowser, but it looks looks
very strange (in comparison to VisualWorks/SmalltalkX/Squeak
frameworks), I was unable to realize what method I
had to change to add a new menu item to workspace menus
and so on. It looks, that some widgets are not supported
in Blox, but are supported in GST GTK+ binding.

What about to forgot Blox and build GST tools on
pure GTK?

 - GTK+ 2.0 is quite good toolkit, is object-oriented,
   and is de-facto standard in OpenSource UNIX environment
   (can you imagine modern unix workstation without GTK+2.0
 - GTK+ 2.0 concept (objects, signals, event) is relatively
   well-described in hundreds of tutorials, manuals and so on
   and is well-known in programmers community - so almost
   everybody could write small GUI tool using GTK without
   learning yet another toolkit (good for not-yet-smalltalkers)
 - We will have many usefull/specific widgets, not only those
   available in all supported toolkits.
 - It save gst developer's time, cos there will be no need to
   create Blox adaptor every time the new widget will appear.
 - GTK+ have one of the best systems of creating ang binding
   shortcuts (one of the most problematic topic in VW,Morphic
   and St/X toolkits :-)
 - We can write relatively thin software layer (extension)
   on the top of GTK to provide same API (resp. API with
   same concept and ideas) as is available in VW and/or
   Smalltalk/X (which is really very easy to use and many
   smalltalkers are familiar with it and really love it).

 - GST will be limited to platforms where GTK+2.0 is available.
   But now, gst runs just on unixes and GTK+2.0 runs well both on
   Unix/X-Window and Windows (two main platforms)

What do you thing about?


P.S.: Of course, it will be neccessary to stabilize GTK plugin
      I would like help,but I don't know how :-(

Think about having the same code with a Qt backend... i think of BLOX like a wrapper, like wxWidgets at all. However, having BLOX on top of a toolkit means a lot of maintenance and a reduction of performance. Surely, BLOX Browser is not something so much good as development environment, but this can be improved at any time.

The most important thing is to mantain the stability and backward compatibility between GUI toolkits.


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