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Re: [Help-smalltalk] [ANN] Overlord, an IDE for GNU Smalltalk

From: Gwenaël Casaccio
Subject: Re: [Help-smalltalk] [ANN] Overlord, an IDE for GNU Smalltalk
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:09:29 +0200
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On 05/08/2011 13:22, ZuLuuuuuu wrote:
MrGwen wrote:
On 05/08/2011 11:17, ZuLuuuuuu wrote:

I am working on an IDE for GNU Smalltalk from time to time. It is called
Overlord and it is a simple and classic class browser like gst-blox (so
nothing new). It has come to a stage where it might have its usage for

Besides the very very ugly coding, it lacks some major features like
exporting capability, debugger and inspector. Also its text editor is
just a
text view for now... But you can do simple things like
adding/editing/removing namespaces, classes, methods and it has syntax

I haven't packaged it yet (actually I might need a help there I don't
how gst-blox or gst-browser executers are created) so here is a tarball:

To install:

1) Extract the tarball
2) cd ~/the-folder-you-extracted-into/Overlord (this is necessary)
3) gst ./


gst -I "the-path-to-image-you-want-to-open" ./

Here is a screencast to see it in action. I do a classic hello world web
application example using Iliad:

Comments and contributions are welcome...

Canol Gökel
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Hi Canol,

Nice to have a new ide for GST, but why haven't you consider improving
VisualGST ?
For instance your dialog for the class building is nice and I guess I
would add it,
why haven't you send a mail about the ide...

So we will have two inspectors, two transcripts, two workspaces ...

For instance the debugger of VisualGST could be improved send a patch,
have you looked at all the changes I've made for GTK in VisualGST
or at the GTK-Tools?

I guess we can work together to provide a better IDE at least I want that.


I started to code this IDE to learn more about reflection and how to create
workspaces, transcripts etc. but VisualGST is a pretty big project and its
codebase was pretty big so I decided to code one from scratch.

We can share code between the IDEs, I guess. I'll choose MIT or GNU or
something like that (any suggestions?). And now that I know more about these
stuff I might be able to contribute to VisualGST in the future.

Canol Gökel
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Great Canol, I know VisualGST is a big project, but if everybody creates its own IDE nothing will work for the *community*. For instance I've made a lot of improvements for GTK (menu creation, main window, ...) and everybody that want to create a GTK apps could reuse it (do you recall the treeview example I show you ?). Also what is important is
to create a community around VisualGST (users/developers) to improve it.

Tomorrow I'll integrate the package and class builder in VisualGST.


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