Re: [zile-devel] Woot, we may soon be obsolete!

[Stephan Titard]

Reuben Thomas escribió:
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2006, Stephan Titard wrote:
>
>   
> > I looked also at the code to see I could extend it myself
> > some areas that interest me were
> > - UTF8 (and I looked at what the joe people did)
> >     
>
> That's on the wishlist, it's a biggie, obviously.
>
>   
actually, there is also the ICU library, that is used by parrot...
but I haven't really looked further into that matter

> > - syntax colorization (for this joe has also something extendible ... I
> > am not sure how big it is)
> >     
>
> Zile used to have this, and I got rid of it as being superfluous. 
> However, the code was dog-ugly, and something nicer (and not written by 
> me!) would be fine, especially if it could be configured out.
>
>   
> > - have a true lisp: tinyscheme on sourceforge seems quite interesting
> > and small
> >     
>
> The current Lisp implementation in Zile is actually a hacked-down small 
> lisp interpreter (lithp 0.6).
Ah. Thanks. I could  not find any pointer to that in the docs...
>  One of my iron rules at the moment is 
> "Zile is a strict subset of Emacs", so this (and indeed syntax 
> colouring) would be hard to add without breaking it (or bloating it).
>
>   
> >  but I can have different versions: a small one and a bigger one
> >     
>
> Yes, I think that's sufficient.
>
>   
> > are all these things the kind of stuff you are planning to put into zee
> > (with maybe some kind of plugin arquitecture)?
> >     
>
> No: the point of Zee is mostly to take things out.
>
>   
> > any advice? what I really like is something versatile enough so that I
> > can hook it into anything, maintainable...
> >     
>
> Zile is much cleaner than it was when I took it on; there's a lot of 
> additional cleaning work that has gone into Zee that could be 
> backported to Zile. I think it can be a stable and comprehensible 
> code-base to hack on for a while. I'd be very happy if someone else who 
> wanted to develop Zile took it over.
>
>   
> > finally is (and will) the main line of development for zile and zee 
> > (be) mainly linux?
> >     
>
> As long as I'm in charge and love Linux, yes. I don't see myself 
> changing OSes any time soon, but it's not really a big issue as I really 
> am programming to POSIX, not Linux.
>
>   
I thought actually it was __POSIX__ Code; obviously there are some 
poorly-conforming curses as it does not compile on
HP-UX. As I commented, it is probable that having ncurses as a 
prerequisite would solve the problem. I will definitely send
patches if I make it work.

thanks
hth
--stephan