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Re: How to develop even better explanations, ever better explanations no


From: B. T. Raven
Subject: Re: How to develop even better explanations, ever better explanations not so opaque blocking the passage of the radiant energy and the light to understanding the lisp coding a novice would insert to setup mail in gnus.
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 19:58:29 -0500

I'm too much of a newbie to help with that, but I confess that I would
like to know too. Maybe one of the gurus will deign to explain.

"Priyadarshan" <newsgroup@bontempi.net> wrote in message
news:mailman.4199.1153158923.9609.info-gnus-english@gnu.org...
> Hi,
> There is something that has been stopping me from using gnus, and that
> is how to manage multiple accounts, not just multiple SMTPs, but also
> multiple  identities, like Thunderbird does.
>
> I have searched for an answer to this with no success.
>
> Could you please add to your example the lines needed to implement that?
>
> Thank you
>
> Priyadarshan Bontempi
>
>
> B. T. Raven wrote:
> > "Don Saklad" <dsaklad@gnu.org> wrote in message
> > 5ipsg5tq41.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org">news:5ipsg5tq41.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org...
> >> What is the appropriate mail system to use for setting up
> >> mail in gnus for this system on this machine?...
> >
> > Which system? Which machine?
> >
> > Mutatis mutandis (use your own name and isp info of course), put the
> > following into .emacs
> >
> > (setq user-full-name "B.T. Raven")
> > (setq user-mail-address "ecinmn@alcisp.com")
> >
> > (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.alcisp.com")
> > (setq smtpmail-local-domain nil)
> > (setq send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> >
> > (load-library "smtpmail")
> >
> > (setenv "MAILHOST" "mail.alcisp.com")
> > (setq rmail-primary-inbox-list
> >  '("ecinmn@alcisp.com") rmail-pop-password-required t)
> > (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.alcisp.com"))
> > (setq gnus-check-new-newsgroups nil)
> > (load-library "message")
> > (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it)
> >
> > Save the .emacs file. Exit Emacs. Start emacs. Type: M-x gnus (Alt and
x
> > simultaneously, or Esc and then x). By the way, I just tried this and
it
> > locked up Emacs, but I had forgotten to get out of Outlook Express
first.
> > Emacs should probably degrade more gracefully in this pathological
case.
> > Otherwise it should work. (This was run on msw98 and emacs 21.3) You
will
> > have to type in your user name and password each time. There are ways
of
> > getting around this, but I haven't figured them out yet. I don't want
my
> > password in clear text on the machine anywhere, even though it is
there
> > somewhere in the Outlook Express setup.
> >
> >>
> >> . How would you develop an even better explanation, ever better
> >>   explanations than are currently available?... Explications that
> >>   are not so opaque blocking the passage of the radiant energy
> >>   and the light to understanding the lisp coding a novice would
> >>   insert to setup mail in gnus.
> >>
> >>   If the novice does not know the lisp coding, the novice would
> >>   not know what is inserted for the mail setup in gnus. So a
> >>   better explanation could include term by term, tag by tag what
> >>   is going on in the lisp coding to be inserted.
> >
> > If you need to understand all the inner workings of the program, then
you
> > will have to master elisp first (and maybe C, and maybe even advanced
> > computer science principles.) If we need to understand it as well as
RMS
> > does, then we should probably wait for metempsychosis.
> >
> >>
> >> . Then there is the question of how the novice can identify what
> >>   are the applicable, what are the appropriate mail system
> >>   requirements they are using already where they do not know how
> >>   to check for this information, if they do not understand the
> >>   technobabble that others relate in explaining how their system
> >>   is setup. Answers to the question of how to identify the mail
> >>   system need even more simplification that avoid using often
> >>   misused jargon or jargon that could be unfamiliar.
> >>
> >>
> >> I've been around this corner and related corners of the net for
> >> years and so have friends and acquaintances expert in other areas
> >> of interest like networks. We haven't figured out the
> >> explanations because the dedication needed to devote energy to
> >> the complex text for setup is cumbersome.
>
>
>



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