Re: Last messages are at the very bottom

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:29:20 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

> CHENG Gao <chenggao@gmail.com> writes:
>> * Also sprach asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren):

>>> On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 22:58:35 +0200, Merciadri wrote:

>>>> I had already tried this solution (I simply use
>>>> (setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
>>>> '((not gnus-thread-sort-by-number)
>>>> gnus-thread-sort-by-score))
>>>> ), but it seems not to work. Is there a problem to put it in my .gnus
>>>> file? Do I have to put it in my .emacs one? If so, why?

>>> It works when I evaluate those lines. Maybe they don't do what you
>>> expect? (That is, you should describe what "does not work" means to
>>> you.)

> As I explained above, the only parameter to sort the titles of the
> newsgroups' discussions would be the date.

Yeah, but when that is exactly what I get when I use the code you cite,
my reply is "It works for me", and we got exactly nowhere.

So give an example of what you expected, and what you got instead¹.

> Was it your parameter too?

I evaluated your lines directly, so yes.

                                 o o o

Let me show you what I am talking about.

If I get the last 20 articles in gnu.emacs.gnus, it looks like this:

  O  [  57: Merciadri Luca         ] Re: Using ``^'' in Gnus
  O      [  37: Pierfrancesco Caci     ] 
  O          [  51: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O      <  23: Merciadri Luca         > 
  O  [  44: Merciadri Luca         ] Re: Reading mail, okay, but which way 
through?
  O      <  26: Merciadri Luca         > 
  O          [  20: Byung-Hee HWANG        ] 
  O              [ 300: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O                  [ 316: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O                      [  21: CHENG Gao              ] 
  O                          [  30: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O                              [  30: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  OA [  25: Merciadri Luca         ] Last messages are at the very bottom
  O +    [  20: => gnu.emacs.gnus      ] 
  OA+        [  41: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O +            [  21: => gnu.emacs.gnus      ] 
  O +                [  32: CHENG Gao              ] 
  O +                    [  47: Merciadri Luca         ] 

If I evaluate your gnus-thread-sort-functions and get them again, I get
this:

  OA [  25: Merciadri Luca         ] Last messages are at the very bottom
  O +    [  20: => gnu.emacs.gnus      ] 
  OA+        [  41: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O +            [  21: => gnu.emacs.gnus      ] 
  O +                [  32: CHENG Gao              ] 
  O +                    [  47: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O  [  57: Merciadri Luca         ] Re: Using ``^'' in Gnus
  O      [  37: Pierfrancesco Caci     ] 
  O          [  51: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O      <  23: Merciadri Luca         > 
  O  [  44: Merciadri Luca         ] Re: Reading mail, okay, but which way 
through?
  O      <  26: Merciadri Luca         > 
  O          [  20: Byung-Hee HWANG        ] 
  O              [ 300: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O                  [ 316: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O                      [  21: CHENG Gao              ] 
  O                          [  30: Merciadri Luca         ] 
  O                              [  30: Merciadri Luca         ] 

As you can see, the threads are now sorted so the newest thread is at
the top², as I expected.

So, from my perspective, it works.

You say it doesn't work, so either a) you didn't get the same result
(which would lead to one avenue of investigation, i.e. finding a bug in
your setup or in Gnus), or b) you _expected_ something else (which would
lead to a very different avenue of investigation: how did you get a
different expectation; could the manual be improved - and how do you get
what you expect?)


  Best regards,

     Adam

¹ Here is a good resource: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html

² I would like to interject that having the newest at the top could
  easily be confusing, as you are likely to read replies before
  questions, which is... unorderly.

-- 
 "We are very loud !!! Way too loud for a backyard           Adam Sjøgren
  party. Are you guys nuts !!!!"                         asjo@koldfront.dk