Re: Persistent article

[Francis Moreau]

Matt Lundin <mdl@imapmail.org> writes:

>
> Make sure gnus-use-cache is set to t and that gnus-cache-enter-articles
> includes the symbol "ticked". E.g.,
>
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> (setq gnus-use-cache t)
> (setq gnus-cache-enter-articles '(ticked dormant))
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> Then, provided you've set gnus-cacheable-groups correctly, anytime you
> mark an item as ticked (!), it will also be added to the cache. That way
> a single keystroke will make the article: (1) permanently visible and
> (2) persistent.

Ok.

Acutally I wanted to make persistent articles permanently visible
because I didn't know (until I read your follow-up) any ways to retrieve
them. So my first solution was to make them permanently visible and
increase their scores, so I can retrieve them quite easily.

> As Adam pointed out, persistence and visibility are not connected by
> default, because many people want to save articles without keeping them
> visible.

I agree.

> But you can easily combine persistence and visibility with the
> settings above.

Easily, perhaps, but this solution, ie showing persistent articles by
making ticked articles cached, is not very intuitive IMHO.

I use ticked articles when I notice an interesting article but have no
time to read it now. So ticked means README.

Persistent means, I read it and it's really interesting so I want to
save it.

>
> The manual spells this all out quite nicely:
>
> - 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Article-Caching.html#Article-Caching
>
> - 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Persistent-Articles.html#Persistent-Articles

Yep I already read them.

> Furthermore, since your cached articles are just a bunch of nnml groups,
> another way to read them is to create a virtual server:
>
> - 
> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Creating-a-Virtual-Server.html

Ah !

That's definitely the solution to my problem.

One sad thing is that the section of the manual about persistent
articles doesn't mention virtual server. And AFAIK, it's the right way
to access to persistent articles...

I still have one issue with persistent articles though: when I notice an
interesting article which is part of a thread, I'd like to save the
whole thread. So I use 'A R' to retrieve the thread, but I can't make
the previous articles in the thread persistent: gnus tells me "Can't
cache article -2".

Do you have an idea why it doesn't work ?

Thanks !
-- 
Francis